Support BladeForums! Paid memberships don't see ads! This thread is going in GKD: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/benchmade-3v.1661653/ It's also being echoed on IG and probably Reddit (I'm not on Reddit.). I was surprised not to see a corresponding thread in here. Apparently an independent test has shown rather disappointing hardness ratings on the new Bailout's 3v. Well under Crucible's recommendation and in line with the poor edge retention test results done by users.(take those with a grain of salt.) Something like 56hrc. While this particular instance is related to a single model, it's part of a growing conversation about the marketing behind the latest and greatest super steels. Some companies, like Benchmade, seem to be actively peddling these steels as upgrades and premium features, drastically increasing the retail price, while giving them a soft, warranty friendly heat treat that negates any possible performance gain. I've heard anecdotal reports that some m390 blades won't hold an edge during simple cut tests as well as the 154cm that they're meant to be an upgrade for. Personally, if indeed they are being left at 60hrc and below to stave off warranty claims for breakage, I'd like to see a change in warranty policy. I'm not a moron. I'm not going to use a $250 knife with m390 @ 64hrc to pry open shipping crates. Just charge me for a new blade if I break it and give me one that will hold an edge worth a damn in the meantime.