Support BladeForums! Paid memberships don't see ads! Yep, all of the 4.1 (and 7/7) hardware is in the Survive shop (and has been for a long time) but I don't expect to get either of those knives for a while yet. I've mentioned this before, but the original production order was set by the popularity of each model in the Starter campaign. So the 5.1 was most popular, followed by the 4.7, and then the 4.1, but since they kept the 4.1 preorders open for months after they closed the Starter campaign it accumulated a lot of orders, and then there were presales after that. Following that logic the 4.1 didn't have the most Starter orders, and if they haven't completed filling those Starter orders yet they may still be filling 4.1 orders for quite a while. Ellie has stated that the 4.1 model run (in total) was by far the largest of them so it looks like they have many more to go.