52100

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by matfox, Mar 14, 2020.

  1. matfox

    matfox Basic Member Basic Member

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    Dec 1, 2015
    Never tried a military so far, only pm2 's, but never one with this steel and handle combination. I found out a little about how different G10 or other materials could feel, and more and more about different steels, what is quite interesting. At first, the pm2 seemed to be a big knife, but after some time it felt just right. So good, I could imagine to give its bigger brother a try now.

    Hard to read what you had through with your military, and impressive what you did, till it became the knife which it is right now!
     
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  2. DA170

    DA170 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 12, 2020
    I left a small percentage of Peel-ply texture on the scales , So they're about as slick as the KC Smooth G10 exclusives ! I did take the knife apart to buff off the patina, Clean the pivot area, And sand/finish the carbon fiber.
     
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  3. Lefty_Knives

    Lefty_Knives

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    Jan 11, 2020
    52100 is fantastic, I love it. It isn't stainless at all but takes a fantastic edge and holds it quite well. I truly wish Spyderco would do some more with 52100, maybe a CF Native
     
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  4. matfox

    matfox Basic Member Basic Member

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    Dec 1, 2015
    Thank you for the details, I can imagine how nice this fits it the hands.
     
  5. desmobob

    desmobob

    May 5, 2003
    I don't have a 52-100 Spyderco, but I have other knives in that steel. It takes a very fine, hair-popping edge. I think it is used for making ball bearings, so it takes a very fine polish (and I guess therefore, a fine edge). Anyway, it's one of my real favorite blade steels.

    Reasonable care may leave the blade showing a bit of patina, but rust is not a worry unless you really neglect to clean and oil it occasionally.
     
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  6. matfox

    matfox Basic Member Basic Member

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    Dec 1, 2015
    I'm pretty impressed by the M4 knives I own, sounds like 52100 will go in the same direction.
    A Native as you suggested would be an interesting configuration for sure.
     
  7. matfox

    matfox Basic Member Basic Member

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    Dec 1, 2015
    Thanks for sharing your experiences and the maintenance tip.
    The possibility of having a fine polished edge on a knife, which shines like the surface of ball bearings, is pretty tempting.
     
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  8. brownshoe

    brownshoe I support this site with my MIND

    Sep 6, 2002
    I believe you are correct on the ball bearings. I think originally it had to be forged from ball to flat stock, but not anymore.
     
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  9. stevewest

    stevewest

    Nov 25, 2006
    I have the Manix, Para and Military in 52100. Great steel - easy to sharpen and holds an edge for a long time. I have not had any problem with rust - the Para and Military are taking a nice slow patina. Manix is DLC, so I don't think I'm going to get much of a patina on that one;).
     
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  10. SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

    Apr 13, 2004
    My 52100 PM2, with forced patina:

    IMG_4575.jpg

    Still looks the same, no change in the patina.
     
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  11. matfox

    matfox Basic Member Basic Member

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    Dec 1, 2015
    Makes me really curious in many ways. Neither do I own a millie, nor a knife with this type of steel so far. DLC coating seems to be quite durable, even though I think it looks great when worn out on a patinated steel.
     
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  12. matfox

    matfox Basic Member Basic Member

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    Dec 1, 2015
    Beautiful knife and picture! May I ask how you got the patina?
     
  13. SpyderPhreak

    SpyderPhreak Rocketman for hire Platinum Member

    Apr 13, 2004
    Plain ol' yellow mustard.

    If you do a search here in the Spyderco forum with that term and my username, you will find the details of what I do. It's really pretty simple.
     
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  14. Black Oak Bladeworks

    Black Oak Bladeworks Gold Member Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Gold Member

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    Jun 5, 2019
    In my opinion if you can take care of 1095 you can do 52100 no problem.
     
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  15. loon#r

    loon#r Platinum Member Platinum Member

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    Mar 10, 2008
    52100 is excellent!!!! Can’t decide between a K390 and 52100 para2. Only getting one...
     
  16. DA170

    DA170 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 12, 2020
    Get both!
     
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  17. Cscotttsss

    Cscotttsss Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 3, 2015
    Can't go wrong with either IMO.

    It would come down to price for me.
     
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  18. dogboye

    dogboye Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Great..... now I gotta go look for a 52100 Spydie....
    I used to carry carbon folders as a kid. I flatly refused to carry anything that was even slightly stainless. I KNEW they wouldn't hold an edge as well as the carbon. But it eventually got almost impossible to find good carbon blades. I think Camillus made the last good folding carbon blade I had, just before I hit my teens.
    Now I've gotten used to stainless... but I sure do love the SR101 that is in Busse-kin knives, and that is supposedly just 52100, under their brand because of their own special heat treatment. It will get a screamin' sharp edge, and holds it a LONG time.
     
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  19. John_0917

    John_0917 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    52100 is basically a high carbon steel with just a sprinkling of Cr and Mn in it to form a few carbides and keep grain size small. It’s a very old steel but the processing of it has been improved with modern technology (vacuum furnaces, computer controlled precision heat treating) and it can perform pretty well in spite of its simple composition.

    It will absolutely rust, is easy to sharpen and is tough, wear resistance is meh (not many carbides), you can either a) oil it and stay shiny OR b) patina it.

    Some other low alloy carbon steels Spyderco uses are Vtoku2, Super Blue and 5160.
     
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  20. razorburn

    razorburn Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 26, 2007
    Don't have a knife with 52100 in my collection.As I missed out on the KW Exclusive Manix because of my procrastination but I do have my sights on the CS Survivalist.

    Back to the exclusive,it didn't seem like the demand was there.
     

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