Spyderco Am I the only one who just can't do it?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Hale Storm, Sep 10, 2020.

  1. elde66

    elde66 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jan 22, 2019
    The US has no better "friend" and supporter, from an international relationship standpoint, than Taiwan.

    And, as others have stated, the Taiwan manufactured knives are arguably as good or better than the Golden manufactured products.
     
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  2. number9

    number9

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    Mar 5, 2017
    My Sage 2 is as nicely made as any knife I own. And I own a few that cost more.
     
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  3. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    IMO, the Golden made knives do represent a better value than their Taichung offerings, but as others have said, the Taichung knives actually have better F&F. I have no hesitation in ordering a Spydie from either factory, but I don't have a strong preference for one or the other.
     
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  4. K.O.D.

    K.O.D. Sanity Not Included Platinum Member

    Aug 21, 2013
    Taiwan Spyderco's have been hit or miss for me. Gayle Bradley 1 and Domino are great. Ikuchi and Smock were not good, the Ikuchi terrible.
     
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  5. kylemiller

    kylemiller Basic Member Basic Member

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    May 18, 2016
    The Byrd line has virtually identical FFG geometry to their mainlines, so I usually look there if I'm after one of their imports. I have a Manix 2 LW in BD-1 that has behaved like a freshwater "salt" for as long as I've had it. Great beach and pool knife. Those are my main two uses for Spyderco's and they've held up so darn well (Byrd Cara Cara 2) that I don't have a need to get more yet. A Paramilitary 2 LW Salt would probably change that though.
     
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  6. Clem Fandango

    Clem Fandango Basic Member Basic Member

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    Jul 3, 2020
    Quite the opposite for me. I really like the Taichung models and most of my Spydies were made there.

    You are missing out.
     
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  7. Eversion

    Eversion Making Ti things pretty! Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Gold Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    I agree, Taichung Spydercos are fantastic. The Gayle Bradley 2 is arguably a better value than most Golden models. I'd recommend giving that a try! It's only a simple demonstration of what Taichung is about.
     
  8. MolokaiRider

    MolokaiRider Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 13, 2017
    It’s neat how Spyderco knives made in different factories all have a different feel, but all are still unmistakably Spyderco.

    Taiwan made versions have the highest level of finish, and tighter tolerances.

    Golden, Colorado is in a close second, with Japan right behind and in some models paralleled.

    China made value versions are still well built and highly functional.
     
  9. RoyalHolic

    RoyalHolic Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aug 3, 2019
    I'm impressed by all of their offerings granted sometimes the designs are flawed but for the most part I have no problem buying from any of their factories.

    They're just a damn good company and have earned my trust when it comes to f&f.
     
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  10. Owen K.

    Owen K. Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 9, 2016
    Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'd buy a lot more spydercoes if they weren't made overseas.
     
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  11. Sonnydaze

    Sonnydaze Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 6, 2009
    IF the above examples aren't enuf to convince the OP, then consider the Slysz Bowie...considered by some to be the ultimate Spyderco creation....
     
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  12. skyhorse

    skyhorse Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 30, 2010
    The Gayle Bradley 2 is outstanding and while I normally buy American. the Citizens of Taiwan are more pro America
    than many American citizens are nowadays.
     
  13. JokersFaceLifter

    JokersFaceLifter

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    Jan 6, 2016
    good things come out of the Taiwan Spyderco facility, enough of my spydercos arrived to my house with 'Taiwan' stamped on the blade, and i just decided to ignore it and use the knife for what it was --- and you know what? no complaints

    furthermore:
    Sal knows that hundreds of thousands of people, probably millions of people, use and rely on spyderco knives, the last thing he will do is open a factory overseas without heavy spyderco brand QC and oversight, and let the quality slip like the sands of time, the factory in Tai Chung is superb
     
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  14. Halfneck

    Halfneck

    Jun 30, 2005
    My Rhino & Chaparral LW are both excellent. The quality of the fit & finish on both is just as good as my Golden models, as well as my older Seki models.
     
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  15. psquared

    psquared

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    Aug 21, 2011
    I own or have owned in excess of 100 Spyderco knives over the last 25 years or so. Taiwan made knives are my least favourite. I have a Taichung made Chaparral and a Brouwer in my rotation but in all honesty they would get a lot more pocket time if the tang stamp said Japan or USA ... not because they are bad knives but for me, my "pride of ownership" on Taiwan made knives just isn't on the same level as it would be for a knife made by a specialist cutler in Japan or at the mothership in the US. I could be very wrong but my uninformed perception is that the the Taiwan made knifes are just "things" made in a factory that could be repurposed to make washing machines or whatever and as a result they lack the soul of a knife made at the founder's home facility or in a city of cutlers like Seki.

    Not a popular opinion and it is quite possibly flawed but no amount of good reviews on the fantastic Taichung made knives has been able to change that. This old dog is just looking at the new tricks thinking ... nah, I'll leave that to the youngsters.
     
  16. knarfeng

    knarfeng senex morosus moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Jul 30, 2006
    I only have one Spyderco Taiwan-made knife, a Cat.
    • Extremely well made. Totally solid knife with very well done G10, a compression lock and steel liners, I like the BD1N alloy, and the the ergonomics are fantastic. It was ~$60.
    • A similar Golden-made knife is the L'il Native in S30V and compression lock. It runs about double that price. Part is the S30V and part is the US-made. I'm not certain that there is a manufacturing cost difference between a compression lock and a liner lock.
    I'll likely end up buying a L'il Native, just to try it because I'm a knife knut and I gotta try everything. However, from a "Is the Cat worth what I paid" perspective, the Cat is worth every penny and were I not a knife knut I'd not bother trying the L'il Native.
     
  17. 3fifty7

    3fifty7 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 24, 2016
    I was a bit taken aback by the made in Taiwan thing too. I understand and admire Taiwans hope/quest for independence but will they ever completely stand on their own two feet?

    Anyway.
    Since it is where the Spyderco I wanted was made I bought it. Then I bought another. I am very pleased with the Spydercos I have bought from the Taichung facility.
    Would I prefer they were made in the USA, absolutely.
    Would I pay 10% more for the same knife made in the USA, absolutely.
    Would I pay 20% more for the same knife made in the USA, yes, yes I would.

    Now I can’t answer the question of complete manufacturing costs per unit of equal products coming from the two different facilities, but I doubt the 20% I would be willing to hand over would cover it. Perhaps that would be better discussed in another thread.
     
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  18. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    I had the Vallotton and loved it. Just can't get past that Taiwan labeling on the knife I guess.
     
  19. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    It is for a working class schlub like me. At $150, I'll use the hell out of a knife. At $300-$400 on up, I'm more careful how I use it.
     
  20. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    I agree. The only one I'd pass that threshold on is the Lionspy. YMMV.
     

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