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Broken mora's?

Discussion in 'Wilderness & Survival Skills' started by mountainmist, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. mountainmist

    mountainmist

    Jun 12, 2013
    The Mora Triflex has almost the same handle, I would give that a try.
     
  2. B Griffin

    B Griffin Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 22, 2007
    I'd say that Camillus, Ka-Bar, and Ontario are leading contributors to the rise of full tang knives. Due to so many of the fighting/utility knives snapping at the guard, and so many erroneously blaming the tang style rather than placing the blame where it belong on the poor design of the tang in the drawings. I have a few hidden tang knives that I take to the field regularly and think nothing of it, but I know the makers, and I know they know ( much like the Finlanders and Swedish) how to correctly make a hidden tang.

    As for the original question, I have yet to break any, but I only recently bought my first. These I bought only because Benjamin at Baryonyx offers some he has modified to full flat grinds. I bought then for some classes I am teaching this spring, so we will definitely see how well they hold up.
     
  3. druid189

    druid189

    Apr 27, 2008
    I have to somewhat agree with Doc Smith. I have a full size KA*BAR USMC and while no, I haven't abused it, I have used it and it's been fine. That being said, I'm not trying to Paul Bunyan my way through the forest with it either. At best, I only baton through an average of 5" tree cuts, with the occasional "quartering" of a larger tree at about 10" diameter or so...

    As I understand it, the most common rat-tail breakages are often because of a [bad?] weld at the hilt. If the entire unit is one piece though, I think it should be more stable.

    Still, I think I'd be much more relaxed if it had a full-full tang, instead of the rat-tail 'type' it has...more like a "peace of mind" way of thinking. I'm always cautious with the KA*BAR because of it and don't try to do anything that might break it.
     
  4. Thomas Linton

    Thomas Linton

    Jun 16, 2003
    I believe the most common rat-tail break is at the tang-blade junction with no weld involved. Inexpensive construction leaves sharp angles that are stress-risers. I have seen pictures of tangs welded on blades, but never held such a knife.
     
  5. upnorth

    upnorth

    Nov 25, 2006
    The only Mora that I have ever broken was a little 511 that I keep in the car glove box with a fero rod. I forgot my digging tool last fall while metal detecting and I abused this one badly, prying etc. And she popped. But at $9.00 up here in a farm supply store It wasn't an issue, I probably have another half dozen just in that model in a box somewhere. Funny but I used an old Erickson years ago for a summer or so and I still have it.
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  6. jdk1

    jdk1

    Apr 21, 2010
    Looks like it may have been worth it. Those will be collector's items when we finally incorperate Canada into the state of "North Minnesota" as a way of making it easier for hunters to drive to Alaska. Bwahahaha! Oops, that's still in the planning stages. Forget I said that...:D
     
  7. upnorth

    upnorth

    Nov 25, 2006
    That doesn't sound so bad if Mexico is tossed in. Us frost backs wouldn't mind a warm place for the winter. :p
     
  8. Bo T

    Bo T

    Feb 12, 2011
    I have the Triflex and 911 and like them both. But, I haven't seen the Triflex advertised lately and the 911 (maybe the connotation of 911) has been discontinued. My Triflex has a slightly longer and wider blade than the 911. Unless you find a used one for sale it might be SOL. Triflex steel will take more abuse than the carbon or stainless steel.
     
  9. Richbat

    Richbat

    44
    Feb 25, 2015
    Was almost afraid to read these posts after seeing the title,only reason being is I just ordered 2 Companions and thought,Oh great...
     
  10. BushOgre

    BushOgre

    747
    May 18, 2011
    6 Mora knives owned.....Zero broken.
     
  11. TedPalmer

    TedPalmer Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 27, 2003
    nice!
    35 moras owned, zero broken.
    many battoned, non broken.
    non used as a pry bar...
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2015
  12. cybrok

    cybrok

    Aug 7, 2005
    We gave a winter survival class to 3 companies of the Canadian Army. I have seen bent and chipped Moras (the knives we bring for the students), but no broken blades. Which is quite impressive considering the care (or lack of) these knives had.

    EDIT: They were MoraKniv and Bahco.
     
  13. upnorth

    upnorth

    Nov 25, 2006
    Out of curiosity, do you remember the Mora models used ? I was wondering if they were those little thin bladed 511"s or whatever they're called. The bottom of the line, that I have used to cut sod with. I'm surprised that a bunch of ham handed military guys didn't do more damage.
     
  14. cybrok

    cybrok

    Aug 7, 2005
    This MoraKniv:

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    And this Bahco.

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    The MoraKniv appears to be able to take more of a beating. I think they are 12c27 (surprisingly good steel for that price). As I told them, you can still use a bent knife, but not a broken knife.
     
  15. Pwallwin01

    Pwallwin01

    5
    Nov 23, 2015
    Broken just today from batoning wood for small fire. I've had the knife for about 6 years but have hardly used it so I'm not too happy about that, but then I do have another somewhere in the shed!

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  16. sh00ter01

    sh00ter01

    Sep 26, 2007
    Post a picture of the faces of the steel where it broke. With the way it broke I wonder if there was an inclusion.

    ...unless you were just beating the complete snot out of it in tough, knotty wood.
     
  17. Pwallwin01

    Pwallwin01

    5
    Nov 23, 2015
    Actually I was breaking pallet soft wood for fire kindling. Easy stuff. There was no inclusion; I'll post a pic tomorrow as I forgot to grab it from work.

    Moraofsweden.se have just today rejected the idea that this knife is suitable for batoning and not offered any kind of replacement knife, which is in poor taste if you ask me. Their lifetime warranty doesn't clarify what misuse of a tool is and so as far as I'm aware I'm eligible for their lifetime warranty knife replacement. I've sent a reply; fingers crossed.
     
  18. sh00ter01

    sh00ter01

    Sep 26, 2007
    I'll take your word for it, just seems odd to me it would break on that. I've beaten my clippers probably beyond what any sane person would do and I've never had an issue.
     
  19. Alberta Ed

    Alberta Ed

    Jun 29, 1999
    The laminated blades will bend under abuse (but are easily straightened). Never been able to bust any of the plastic-handled ones. These are tough knives.
     
  20. Pwallwin01

    Pwallwin01

    5
    Nov 23, 2015
    Update: Moraofsweden have stuck to their guns and told me that since my knife was made before their lifetime guarantee came into play, it was used in 'poor judgement' ie for batoning wood with the blade only 2mm thick, they will not be honoring the guarantee. He recommended the Bushcraft Orange for batoning.
     

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