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Carothers and Guns

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by jus_gus, Mar 1, 2018.

  1. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    is there like a big debate between bolt action or lever action being better? Or is it just a seat for every ass type thing?
     
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  2. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    Reloading a bolt action while staying on target in a stationary position is easier, but if you’re on foot, I’d go with a lever action because your reload hand doesn’t have to reposition to the trigger area after each shot.
     
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  3. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Lorien, you may wanna talk to Andy @never.truly.lost who also hails from your own neck of the woods. IIRC, his had posted a few pics in here with a rifle which was a lever action Marlin 336 (Dark Series) chambered in .30-30 Winchester and a scout scope set up.

    ETA:

    Found it! Correction as that's not a scout scope set up but the picatinny rail is long enough to also mount a scout type scope.

    [​IMG]
     
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  4. Richard338

    Richard338 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2005
    As the saying goes, "only accurate rifles are interesting", and bolt action has more accuracy potential.
     
  5. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    No matter which way you decide to go, also check on adult diapers when they go on sale at your local Costco. Can turn out to be a very important chink in one's armor when hunting in BC :D

     
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  6. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    couple guys I know carry guns professionally, and probably have lots of guns between them I can try out. I was invited to go shooting by another guy who trains dogs for you know what and is a full on gun nut. It's amazing how worlds open up when the mind fixes its gaze on something

    just found out I can take the safety course I need for my license 5km from my house, and the missus, (1st Nations therefore no need for hunting license!) is interested too!

    winning!
     
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  7. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Awesome brother, those guys will steer you straight for what you need for your area. Have fun and get out there and make some meat this fall. I expect to see pictures of the Knolly hauling hindquarters in the coming months.
     
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  8. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    100 rounds of 338 would consume a lot of powder.

    I ran into issues with throat erosion on my 7mag in less than a thousand rounds. Do you see issues with longevity on a rifle with those kinds of chamber pressures with those kinds of quantities?
     
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  9. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    got an ebike and a trailer already:thumbsup:

    I'm leaning toward bolt action; seems to me that the reloading mechanism requires the use of less physical space to operate, and I understand the significance of maintaining position could contribute to accuracy for someone new to shooting
     
  10. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    No, there isn't any debate. Get a bolt gun.
     
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  11. Richard338

    Richard338 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2005
    My favorite load is 92 gr of H1000 behind a 300 gr Lapua match bullet, which is fairly hot and pushes around 2850 fps. I am at about 2500 rounds and just about to rebarrel. Accuracy is still pretty good. It doesn't erode too fast. I measure it every couple hundred rounds and adjust my loads for length.
     
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  12. never.truly.lost

    never.truly.lost Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 13, 2015
    @Lorien for the coast/hunting black tails a 30-30 with irons would be perfect. Other than that a 308/30-06 covers you for about everything in BC. Bolt gun is a little more fun for playing with rounds and scopes; lever gun is much more handy to carry and scabbard carry
     
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  13. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Had a .338 Lapua in the early ‘90s. Decided it wasn’t big enough, why wouldn’t they use the whole damn case I said, I’m like that. Took a full length Rigby case, blew it out to a minimal body taper and a 45 degree shoulder with a .350 neck. Haven’t used it in several years, but I recall the load for elk being a 250 gr Partition with 108 grains of Hodgden 50BMG. It is an elk crusher.
     
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  14. never.truly.lost

    never.truly.lost Gold Member Gold Member

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    Dec 13, 2015
    Also a 308/30-06 would last thousands of rounds. They are pretty boring rounds but effective and a lot of variety for weight not to mention available everywhere
     
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  15. Richard338

    Richard338 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2005
    Yeah, developing wildcats is cool especially if you are pursuing a theory.

    After loading for .260 rem, 338 seems like a lot of powder. My friend was loading 50 BMG with up to at least 225 gr of powder which looks pretty ridiculous.
     
  16. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    the 30-6 might be a little more than I think I'd need, but I've fired one before and have an idea of what it's like and appreciate the ubiquitous availability of ammunition. Boring and effective is all I want
     
  17. fonedork

    fonedork Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    You could get a Texan LSS suppressed big bore precharged Pneumatic airgun in .457, hehe
     
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  18. JJ_Colt45

    JJ_Colt45 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 11, 2014
    The Tikka is a nice rifle and a 30-06 would cover anything you might run into up there.
    A 30-06 will cover anything you might run into with maybe the exception of big brown bears ... and it will handle those if the right bullets are used and shooter does their part in a pinch.

    It's a flat shooting round and one that's usually easier to find and not as costly as some calibers ... you can use lighter loads for deer and get excellent results. As long as you're comfortable shooting it it will serve you well.

    I love lever actions but if I were to have one rifle it would definitely be a bolt action.
     
  19. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    If only there were a slightly lighter recoil version of the 30-06 that was super accurate and practically just as powerful and flatter shooting even...

    Look into the .270
     
  20. Big DJ

    Big DJ Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 29, 2013
    I agree 1000 percent.
     
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