Cold steel cpm 3v chipped

Discussion in 'Cold Steel Knives' started by knife chop, Apr 19, 2016.

  1. knife chop

    knife chop

    816
    Feb 11, 2014
    I was ready to purchase a master hunter online and good thing I saw this photo from a customer. I've never seen 3V chip like this. Could it be the DLC process that made the steel brittle or the HT is just subpar?

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  2. PURPLEDC

    PURPLEDC

    Apr 4, 2007
    Well one knife isn't exactly a large enough sample in which to base a whole purchase on. Just as one report of a good knife shouldn't be enough either. If I didn't buy a knife because of a solitary report of an issue I probably would never have owned a knife period. Even if it was an issue on a number of knives I think more info is needed before determining anything from just a photo.
     
  3. blade dude

    blade dude

    890
    Nov 8, 2015
    Could be trying to pry a zip tie


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  4. trevitrace

    trevitrace Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 21, 2013
    Yikes. From the title I was expecting much more minor damage. That's a good-sized chunk.
     
  5. Colorodo

    Colorodo Gold Member Gold Member

    May 23, 2014
    How did it happen?
     
  6. willythekid

    willythekid

    Oct 19, 2011
    Someone could come in and correct me but I believe Cold Steel heat treats it's 3v to a high rockwell (61 to 62 I thought?)... so I believe they were going more for edge retention than toughness. That being said, 3v should still be plenty tough and in order to chip like that some pretty hard lateral force must have been applied.
     
  7. DeadboxHero

    DeadboxHero Triple B Handmade, Custom Knives Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Mar 22, 2014
    Without knowing the backstory this is just hearsay
     
  8. VanDammet

    VanDammet

    Jun 30, 2015

    I don't know what you're talking about bro-siff. This is clearly a picture of a CS MH with a big chunk out of its cutting edge. Obviously, every CS MH will do this immediately upon first use, so what more evidence do you need?? I mean, do you need to see this on Wikipedia before you'll believe it?
     
  9. mete

    mete

    Jun 10, 2003
    Typical of a chop ,then twist ,which will put a halfmoon notch in the blade !! Batoning again ?
    My original master hunter doesn't have notches ,but then it's never been abused !!
     
  10. JTR357

    JTR357

    Sep 10, 2007
    CPM3V is at it's best at 62rc.Even at 65 it's still tough as hell.


    Exactly For all we know this blade could've been shot with a rifle round.
     
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  11. knife chop

    knife chop

    816
    Feb 11, 2014
    Quote from the customer who bought the knife.

    I bought this knife and was pretty excited for the supposed quality at this price. The edge was super sharp and cut through wood to make feather sticks like butter. Edge seemed to stay sharp. I thought I had found my new favorite knife.

    Then I used it to baton through a 2 inch piece of wood which wasn't even a hard wood and a big chunk of the blade chipped off where even reprofiling the blade would be hard. And if somehow you were able to reprofile the blade there's even a crack forming in the middle of the blade which would no doubt lead it to breaking right in half at some point.

    Such a disappointment. This can't be real 3V or they are using some fancy marketing to burn people. Maybe they just have the very edge as 3V but the rest isn't. Who the hell knows...but I have some cheap rat tail $15 Mora which was stainless steel and not even carbon steel that I used to baton through the same wood and had zero problems.

    Such a HUGE disappointment.
     
  12. willythekid

    willythekid

    Oct 19, 2011
    I must have had that info wrong... maybe someone can chime in on what hardness Cold Steel does their 3v at.
     
  13. JTR357

    JTR357

    Sep 10, 2007
    Probably heat treat.The best steel in the world with a lousy HT might as well be Pakistani pot steel.If that's what happened...
     
  14. The Aflac Duck

    The Aflac Duck

    Feb 27, 2014
    One time, I bought 1,000 rounds of .45acp ammo. The first bullet I fired was a dud, so I threw the remaining 999 rounds in the trash.
     
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  15. 19-3ben

    19-3ben

    Jul 27, 2015
    I'm not a CS fan at all, but let me get this straight....

    We have an anonymous and unconfirmed account of someone trying to bash a hunting knife through a hunk of unidentified wood that could have had any number of knots, and no mention of the temperature at all. So it's totally possible that this thin edged slicer hit a rock hard, frozen solid, sap filled knot and lost a chunk.

    And we're going to make a judgment based on this unverifiable statement from the unknown person?

    Even if it was as perfectly innocuous as it sounds, and the story checks out, it's still only one example (no statistical validity) and is still an example of using the wrong tool for the job.
     
  16. 19-3ben

    19-3ben

    Jul 27, 2015
    For shame! There are starving 1911s in China who would love to have some .45acp ammo. They're hungry, and you just throw it out.
     
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  17. JTR357

    JTR357

    Sep 10, 2007
    Excellent analogy.These aren't custom hand made knives.
     
  18. jpm2

    jpm2

    Nov 19, 2014
    Mine chipped, nothing like the one pictured, but much worse than other knives I have with similar geometry and supposedly lessor steel, doing identical tasks.
    The good news is, it sharpened out easy...
     
  19. blade dude

    blade dude

    890
    Nov 8, 2015
    2 inch branch and two inch piece of wood are two very different things. Wood makes me thing lumber which can have nails as well


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  20. JR88FAN

    JR88FAN

    May 5, 2013
    It's one of two things:

    Improper HT
    User Error

    I have used 3V a ton (all custom knives) and I can tell you from my experience that you are not going to cause that kinda damage driving it through wood, but that's also a story we can't really verify either...

    I am never going to be surprised by large manufactures like CS maybe not getting a batch of steel right once in a while, and I also wouldn't be surprised if that guy tried to cut his Spyderco diamond rod in half because he thought 3V was just that good.
     

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