DEK1

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by Lorien, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Just out of curiosity, what options did you choose? Tommy hasn't made his choices public either but having known him for a while, he usually goes for multiples loaded with options. However, Tommy's claim is placed on the first page post # 20 (there are several posts on the first page with identical post numbers as the BF.com system stacks up concurrent posts on top of each other!) and when I looked up yours, you are on the 6th page post # 118. I think that it may be a while longer but I also think that once CPK gets around to the fancier option DEK1s, they will also be fulfilled rather quickly but toward the end of the pre-order's estimated time scale.
     
  2. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    I expect to be done shipping by summer
     
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  3. 000Robert

    000Robert Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2020
    I agree, they are all beautiful hardwoods.
     
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  4. 000Robert

    000Robert Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2020
    I ordered mine with the swedge and penetrator tips. And one of them with wood.
     
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  5. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Tommy, I'm looking forward to seeing your DEK1 bevies :)

    Very nice.
     
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  6. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Nathan, have you decided on the orientation of the satin grind on those DEK1s. IIRC, it was mentioned probably perpendicular to the edge just like the DEFs but it'll be cool to see some along the edge like the UFs with the acid washed flats, but then again I'm being biased ;)
     
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  7. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    Mat is right, I have No Satin DEK's ordered, and only 1 with a Swedge
     
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  8. 000Robert

    000Robert Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2020
    I like the stonewashed look also.
     
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  9. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    I tend to do them lengthwise, Mark tends to do them perpendicular. Since I'm tied up with sword production these are going to be perpendicular.
     
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  10. Casinostocks

    Casinostocks Factotum Gold Member

    Mar 20, 2016
    Yup, that is what was stated before but we can always try that "pony" card on you again. #nathanskryptonite
    :D
     
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  11. Bilateral

    Bilateral

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    Jan 25, 2021
    Just received my DEK1, and I am floored by the balance, comfort in hand, and quality of this knife. Wow!
     
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  12. 000Robert

    000Robert Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2020
    I can't wait to see it?
     
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  13. gunslinger387

    gunslinger387 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aug 31, 2010
    Anyone know the HRC for AEBL? It feels “soft” when sharpening versus the 3V.
     
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  14. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    HRC 61. It's not soft, it's just low in carbide. Hard 3V makes other stuff feel soft on the stone in comparison. I've experienced this myself and ran over to the hardness tester. Those super hard vanadium carbides are harder than the stone and just sail across it.
     
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  15. Icky Thump

    Icky Thump Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 8, 2011
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  16. gunslinger387

    gunslinger387 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aug 31, 2010
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    I liked it but to be honest I don’t really know what it means as far low in carbide vs super hard vandium
     
  17. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    Two knives...
    Delta 3V at HRC 60.5
    AEBL at HRC 61

    The AEBL has a low carbide volume fraction.

    The 3V contains a significant amount of carbide. And not just any carbide. Vanadium carbide, which is one of the hardest carbides there is.

    So even though the AEBL is just as hard, it lacks the tiny super hard carbides of 3V. Those carbides prevent the sharpening stone from biting into the 3V as well, making it feel harder on the stone. The vanadium carbide in the 3V is actually harder than the sharpening stone. The stone can't cut them so they tend to skate.
     
  18. gunslinger387

    gunslinger387 Gold Member Gold Member

    468
    Aug 31, 2010
    Thank you, that I got.
     
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  19. dflores

    dflores Gold Member Gold Member

    882
    Dec 29, 2011
    I currently have shapton glass 320/1000/4000, what stones are you using? I was thinking of getting a dmt or atoma 600 grit to touch of the dek as needed.
     
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  20. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    240 grit ceramic 3M belt, white Arkansas stone.
     

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