Dan my friend, never what I say would be a challenge, but rather "Hey .... we discussed this ....." What you say too makes outright sense - so this is extremely good matey, so Thank you once again Dan! Charlie- So So interesting, Tom must be such an amazing person to listen to when discussing knives! Great stuff! I cant believe just how nice some of those previous pages of Jacks are!!! , Dan are you in cahoots with Charlie and Augie sharing that time machine?