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Eyyyyyy--I designed this axe!

Discussion in 'Axe, Tomahawk, & Hatchet Forum' started by FortyTwoBlades, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. Spear

    Spear

    12
    Aug 18, 2019
    I mistook you for the other poster. Old eyes.
     
  2. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    I wish all the success in the world Benjamin! Everything I've seen you design has been very well thought out and targeted, from knives to sharpening gear.

    I hope this does well for you and I'm sure those who understand what you're striving for will love it.
     
  3. Danke42

    Danke42

    Feb 10, 2015
    Well if you had bothered to go to the link there's huge explanation.

    But who's got time for that?
     
  4. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker

    Feb 28, 2011
    That kind of acuity does a great deal to explain your criticism in this thread.
     
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  5. Bigfattyt

    Bigfattyt Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 23, 2007
    Weird.... I can't see a single similarity between this axe and Hardcore's Ranger, or any of their axes. Not a single feature looks anything like it. Shape of head, lack of relief bevels, hammer shape, lines
    ...all completely different.
    Such a weirdly unnecessary bit of kurmudgonliness. Accusing him of copying a design that in no way, shape or form even looks alike? I guess they both have a wooden handle, and each has an edge and hammer poll???





    @FourtyTwoBlades

    Axe looks great. I like the peaked fantom bevels. Puts me in mind of old Kelly Perfects bevels.

    Lighten up the axe, get a better bite, and the central ridge still pushes the wood out past the eye swell.

    Slip fit axe handles interest me. I've broken a few axe handles over the years and a slip fit sure is easier to rehandle. Plus...over the years, I've never managed to break a slip fit pick handle up at the head/eye intersection where it is thickest.

    The slip fit would be even handier if they release multiple lengths! Switch from full sized to shorter handles with a tap on the stump!

    I always enjoy seeing your designs. Keep it up.





    The ignore feature exists for just such occasions!
     
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  6. BRab

    BRab Gold Member Gold Member

    910
    Nov 23, 2009
    I'm really digging the shape of the head, nice and thin on the bit side! Hopefully they offer it with a 26-28" handle in the future...
     
  7. crbnSteeladdict

    crbnSteeladdict

    Jul 31, 2017
    What kind of water-resistant finish?
    3lbs. Is it total weight or just a head?
    What was the reason for very worn Kelly Perfect look? Personally, I think it would look nicer if Phantom bevels started further away from the edge
     
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  8. OnceBitten

    OnceBitten Gold Member Gold Member

    759
    Feb 11, 2011
    I like it. Period.

    :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  9. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Some kind of mild oil finish I think? I'm actually not sure on the particulars of the finish. The handle is very nice and smoothly done though. The cheeks aren't "phantom" at all -- they're full concave arranged in a diamond taper closer to the way that Nordic splitting axes are done. As you sharpen back into it you won't butt up against any reduction in thickness like you would on a Perfect or old AA&T Co. axes.
     
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  10. crbnSteeladdict

    crbnSteeladdict

    Jul 31, 2017
    Thanks, that makes perfect sense.
    Darn, I did not know I needed another axe :)
    I will wait for longer handle, though.
     
  11. Hickory n steel

    Hickory n steel Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2016
    I do actually think this axe looks nice which is unusual for me.

    I'm glad you were able to work with them on this and hope it proves successful.
     
  12. E.D.C.

    E.D.C. Gold Member Gold Member

    401
    Nov 7, 2016
    Why slip-fit? Was it just for ease of field handle replacement? More info on that would be appreciated.


    Also, can you comment more about the decisions you made regarding blade geometry?

    I like the design. It's something a bit different.
     
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  13. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Is this going to be a limited run or a more permanent addition to their lineup? I don't know a lot about axes but it looks neat.

    Also I like your hat.
     
  14. FortyTwoBlades

    FortyTwoBlades Baryonyx walkeri Dealer / Materials Provider

    Mar 8, 2008
    Slip fit allows for a lot of different uses and applications that aren't possible with a wedge fit. In addition to simple ease of replacing the handle (no drilling and crap, just knock out the old handle with a hammer and you're golden!) it also allows you to use the head on its own as a crafting tool and use multiple handles of different lengths on the same head. You can also fashion a replacement handle from a piece of wood using nothing more than the head itself, and if the head loosens on the handle all you have to do to tighten it up is tap the handle a little deeper in the eye. Also, the head cannot ever fly off the end of the handle. All of this comes at the expense of the whole handle having to be able to pass through the eye of the head, which usually means that unless the eye is humongous you're not going to have a significant handle swell to them, but the eye on this one is designed to be large enough for there to still be a bit of one, even if it's not as large as on a wedged handle.

    As far as the geometry goes it's designed to strike a balance between general chopping/splitting and crafting/shaping work, based largely on a combination of Italian "Milano" woodworker's axes and American half hatchets. The bit is only mildly curved and nice and broad to make shaping cuts nice and precise, and the crisp heel and toe are similarly useful for such work, but the overall bit width and thinness gives good penetration and makes connecting repeated blows easy. The diamond-like concave bevels help keep the bit lighter while still having a good high centerline for chip popping and splitting. The beard allows you to get behind the bit when choking up, of course, but with the way the balance is, the center of gravity is literally inside your hand when you grasp it below the head.

    Thanks! It's a full production item--not limited!
     
  15. jake pogg

    jake pogg

    Dec 20, 2015
    I really like that someone has finally produced a modern axe with compression eye.
    It's a nobly proportioned tool by all appearances,and i can only imagine that every serious,dedicated user will appreciate everything about it.

    I like how austere the slip-fit dictates for the handle to be,makes for a handsome tool.
    Who worked out the final,exact proportions of the eye geometry,you or Prandi?
    In any case,it's cool that it was they who produced it,being pros at just that very system.

    Far back in my wayward youth i've traveled camping through the Pyrenees,and stopped and bought a hatchet at the first village hardware store i came across.Even then,long,Long before i ever even Dreamed of having to punch eyes or carve handles let alone calculate that geometry,i was just instinctively impressed how well-proportioned that whole deal was.
    I never Ever seen a compression eye before,and found it Super convenient to knock the axe down for stowing it in my pack.

    MANY years later,having lived my life in AK,even before getting into axe-forging,i often remembered that little Basque hatchet.There're no suitable hardwoods for axe haft in AK,and a compression-fit eye would save So many people SO much trouble,as birch Almost wants to work in an American tear-drop eye,but after about an hour fails right across the grain.
    Just that little bit of integrity i'm sure would allow it to work.

    Good job,a neat addition to the modern working axes.
     
  16. Wild Willie

    Wild Willie Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 19, 2018
    Looks like I've got another item for the wish list... Looks great Benjamin.
     
  17. herisson

    herisson Apple slicing rocking chair dweller Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2013
    A very beautiful axe ! I could buy one only for "pleasure of the eyes". However, I know quite well FortyTwoBlades knows his trade by heart and his designs are thoroughly thought out. I have no doubt this will also be a very efficient tool. Now I'm considering the hassle of ordering from the States to Europe (and I have still a Condor double bit axe to test out...). Yeah, I'm chicken like that. The pondering begins....
     
  18. Spear

    Spear

    12
    Aug 18, 2019
    "As far as the geometry goes it's designed to strike a balance between general chopping/splitting and crafting/shaping work"
    "It's actually NOT meant to be an overgeneralized design"
     
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  19. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Let’s see your axe big boy. Ok, if ya ain’t got nothin’ nice to say, then don’t say it, or take it to the appropriate forum.

    I think it looks great @FortyTwoBlades!
     
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  20. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    You should know that Ben has earned the respect of the members here many times over. Well beyond just his products, he willingly shares his knowledge and experience to help others. That does not make him above criticism of course but you stated your piece, albeit aggressively, he answered and has moved on.

    If you don't like it, don't buy it.

    Can you show us the axe you designed?
     
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