Finnish/Earlier Scandi axes - Kirves

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  1. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
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  2. rjdankert

    rjdankert

    Mar 10, 2011
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    Bob
     
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  3. John A. Larsen

    John A. Larsen

    Jan 15, 2001
    Agent H, How long is the handle on that Kellokoski axe? That is one nice looking little axe! John
     
  4. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
    Thanks John, that one is about 16".
     
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  5. John A. Larsen

    John A. Larsen

    Jan 15, 2001
    Thanks. John
     
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  6. rjdankert

    rjdankert

    Mar 10, 2011
    Saw this on ebay. I don't really think I want to buy it:rolleyes:, but curious about the manufacturer. Google has not been my friend today.:mad:

    Anyone have any information?

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    Bob
     
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  7. Square_peg

    Square_peg Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 1, 2012
  8. rjdankert

    rjdankert

    Mar 10, 2011
    From above:
    "PURMO was founded in 1953 in the Finnish town of Purmo, near Jacobstad by three entrepreneurs. It initially began as a bow saw manufacturer but in 1956 relocated to Jacobstad and expanded into garden furniture, snow clearing equipment and farming tools. At the end of the 1950s the PURMO brand was well established and the company bought a small radiator manufacturer in the area called Terjårv Wårme. The PURMO radiator soon became a market leader and, in the 70s, was bought by the Rettig Group. The company’s name was changed to Rettig Vårme and the factory moved to Peders in Jacobstad, where it is still based today, producing 900,000 units each year."

    "farming tools" presumably including axes?

    Rettig Vårme:
    https://svenska.yle.fi/artikel/2014/05/15/purmoradiatorerna-lever-evigt
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    "The company's first product was Purmosågen - a bow saw that had a striking approach. The predecessor had a bow made of wood, but Purmosågen was made of metal"


    Bob
     
  9. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
    Thank you Bob. I saw that one and was curious as well.

    I'm endeavoring to make a handle for this larger piilu kirves but I need to cut my wood to length with 10-15% excess. Based off pictures from listings, Finnish forums, videos, and the example I have of a smaller one here, I am thinking the overall length is approximately, more or less, 2.5x-3x the length of the head’s collar to handle.

    The smaller one measures 7.5” from eye to the end of the collar. That would be 22.5” but actual length is 23” – pretty close to the 3X estimate.

    The bigger one is 10.5” (with collar reduced from previous beatings and then a fix via hand filing). Given that the proportions of the heads’ builds are more or less the same in regards to scale, should the larger one’s handle be roughly 31.5” finished? Maybe an inch or two shorter? (The 10-15% previously mentioned "excess" being the tongue, swell, or both in reduction).
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    They seem like tools that are used fairly close to a guy’s body, with the right hand up on/near the collar and the left hand on the neck/swell to essentially pull into the work or maintain the head in line with the surface being planed – assuming you are right handed but since there is no offset so then it is essentially the same for either propensity.
     
  10. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
    More of a handle than last night.
    Jigsaw then draw knife to clean it up a and knock down the edges. 30"
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    Big.piilu
     
  11. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
    Just an update.
    Definitely a learning curve is involved with these. I'm sure the second one will go quicker.
    Draw knife, Spoke shave, and Shinto saw Rasp to this point.
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    Big.piilu
     
  12. Fmont

    Fmont Gold Member Gold Member

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    Apr 20, 2017
    I have been missing out on this thread! Lots of really cool axes. Making me want one or three lol
     
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  13. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
    They are definitely interesting in form and history for sure. Also, they seem more available now than they have been in the last several years.
     
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  14. Whiskey_Jim

    Whiskey_Jim

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    Feb 21, 2017
    I really want one of these but they cost so much
     
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  15. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
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    Big.piilu


    I suppose cost and expense are different. I’m enjoying learning to hang the socket style and have used the smaller, more general purpose ones with success.

    “Jokainen elää vain yhden kerran”
     
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  16. rjdankert

    rjdankert

    Mar 10, 2011
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  17. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
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  18. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
    I tried my damnedest to not seat this thing beyond pushing it in there by hand but it won’t come out now without messing up the tongue. Couple of beers and knocking it once lightly on the bench set it on there pretty well.

    Probably should be happy that it’s hung but it poses a problem for shipping to the Leather Master now lol.

    I know some are probably “Kirves Fatigued” with these travails but I’ve tried to contain it...
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    Big.piilu


    Still needs work.
     
  19. Agent_H

    Agent_H

    Aug 21, 2013
    @John A. Larsen
    John Larsen got ahold of me and sent some pictures of a beautiful new kirves of his.
    (with his permission, of course)
    Kellokoski:
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    Ohhhh, that is what they look like with the bit intact lol.
    SA -Suomalainen Armeija
    P – Pioneeri
     
  20. John A. Larsen

    John A. Larsen

    Jan 15, 2001
    Clinton, Thanks for posting the photos, but unfortunately it is not my axe, but belongs to a good friend in Finland. He is certain the handle was made by someone with just a puukko. Not cheap either as it went for a little over 100 Euros, and that was in Finland. John
     

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