Honestly, you guys have tickled my interest with the All Clad pan/pot. I hate forums! When I got out of college, I knew little about cooking other than a few basics. Never cooked anything really to that point in life. I bought "The Joy of Cooking" cook book. I referred to it often. I still have that same cook book. Had no idea who the Becker's were at that point. I ordered a set of pots & pans that were advertised in a credit card bill insert that were common then. Learned my lesson. Pretty much garbage, but I still used some of the pieces for years. They reside in my "car camping tub" now and are essentially throw away stuff. I bought better stuff after I became more settled and got married. A cast iron skillet or two were central to my stove top cooking. My mother used a cast iron deep skillet with lid (edited) for many things when I was a kid as she was cooking in volume for all us rug rats. I didn't even know what a dutch oven was until I was in college and we would make stew type dishes on field trips when camping. Today I am a victim of my old habits. I like good stuff, but resist paying high prices for what is supposed to be great stuff. The initial purchase of the pot/pan set had a profound impact on my accumulation of cookware over the years.