Lets talk GEC!

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by rockgolfer, Jun 23, 2013.

  1. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    I don't think anybody "dislikes" SFO's.
    I think some of us just aren't as tore up about losing them (for a while) as others.
    I still believe they'll be back again some day...
     
  2. Rockon75

    Rockon75 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 8, 2008
    How about the original 78's? Those were really nice and a weird precursor to the almost identical 77. They sure had a snap to them, which not everyone appreciates (i know), but i sure like an alligator snap on my large knives.
     
  3. rpstrimple

    rpstrimple Gold Member Gold Member

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    Oct 16, 2011
    I guess it all depends on how many of your customers are in it for the uniqueness and profitability at resale. I'm sure most of us here take comfort in the fact that if we buy one at retail, that we can at least make our money back if we don't like it or decide to move on from it. A lot of people pre-order SFOs sight unseen, which speaks to this.

    I know this is not the same industry, but as a watch guy, Rolex has been doing this for a little while now. And in some ways the structure is very similar. Used to be you could go grab a sports model at any dealer. Now, the dealers make you play games and will only sell the desirable models to VIP customers or you have to buy so much in a less desirable model or jewelry sometimes just to get on a list. What did Rolex do? Nothing. They don't produce more. They don't try to manipulate the secondary market by adjusting production. The market has decided what the value is. We see that with GEC today as well. What should GEC do?

    Would GEC make more money by making more production knives? It would put more GECs in the hands of people, sure. But would it also hurt the integrity of the brand if the market became saturated with them? It's a tough line. I'm sure Bill knows what he is doing. But Rolex sat back and is business as usual. The market is scorching hot for GEC and a sports model Rolex. What happens when the market cools? Trying to regulate market scarcity is a fools errand imo. Sorry for the wall of text lol.
     
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  4. mrknife

    mrknife Gold Member Gold Member

    May 9, 2010
    As a fellow watch guy, its the speculation that ruined it for potential buyers. Well luckily for me, I couldn't careless about most of the 6 digit serial line. none of them appeal to me. We got folks in our little watch group that was able to get the blue 58 tudor within days of the release. On the flip side, GEC knives are quite limited to that run and they have a rule to not repeat a run for the most part (not too clear on that rule). Rolex runs the same models again and again until the next updates or discontinued. Covid affected swiss watch sales all the same.
     
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  5. Lander boy Matt

    Lander boy Matt Gold Member Gold Member

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    Aug 12, 2019
    Can anyone help me with production totals on a Great Eastern 651115 in sucker rod wood? Searching through the Gec websight on my phone is making my eyes hurt! Cant seem to find it listed. Thanks in advance
     
  6. bbk357

    bbk357 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 12, 2018

    It’s the Macs out there who buy as many as possible and profit off of the same people trying to collect them.
    I just saw a blade forum knife sell for over $400 on the auction site....:(
     
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  7. bbk357

    bbk357 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 12, 2018
    49
     
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  8. mbkr

    mbkr Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 20, 2018
    Macs??
     
  9. staxnet

    staxnet Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

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    Jul 4, 2011
    49 pieces
     
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  10. bbk357

    bbk357 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 12, 2018
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    Now i would LOVE to get my hands on the BF 85 cap lifter.
    I barely missed out twice last year on the sales forum.
     
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  11. bbk357

    bbk357 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 12, 2018
    reference to a serial flipper who got the boot a while ago
     
  12. JohnDF

    JohnDF Gold Member Gold Member

    May 14, 2018
    He sold his second one... it showed two tubes in the sale photos.
    Probably ordered two with the intention of keeping one and selling one. :mad:
    So nice that the forum could provide him with a quick $400 on the hard work of others.
     
  13. Lander boy Matt

    Lander boy Matt Gold Member Gold Member

    126
    Aug 12, 2019
    Makes me wonder how one doesn't feel foolish for paying that much, granted it's a beautiful knife, their money must come easier than mine.:oops:
     
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  14. knifeswapper

    knifeswapper Knife Peddler Dealer / Materials Provider

    Sep 3, 2004
    She managed all the communication; but little of the sfo discussion, planning, etc. I love Chris to death; but I must say - things go much smoother and as expected with Joan Mae.
     
  15. Dadpool

    Dadpool Gold Member Gold Member

    May 18, 2015
    I'm going to need some burn cream, because I felt the heat from that one halfway across the country! :D

    Love hearing your perspective on all of this, Mike. I appreciate your engagement here as well as your transparency. :thumbsup:
     
  16. hose56

    hose56 Gold Member Gold Member

    727
    Jun 8, 2009

    The barlows are on a 14, 15, or 77 frame. The bolsters and blade types will vary. I was told the punch blade on the 98 pattern was done by a different company but have never confirmed that with GEC.
     
  17. Murdock457

    Murdock457

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    Jan 31, 2020
    1st post mostly just a lurker. It was me who bought the knife..I recently got into traditionals and the 86 bf was a grail. My money def. does not come easy (i run a lawn and garden business). I know it seems like a lot but i dont spend money frivolously often and when i saw it pop up i had to have it.
     
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  18. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Basic Member Basic Member

    697
    Jul 3, 2019
    Haha Dadpool, you’re not the only one, but I think Mike’s second point says it best. GEC makes a collectable item that is as functional as it is beautiful, at a price point that most people don’t mind for a daily user. I’m a proud collector of users. If a knife isn’t cutting it’s only a knife academically (with deference to collectors of safe queens, for whom that is a hobby).

    The strict definition of the verb “hoard” is, “amass (money or valued objects) and hide or store away.” So really all collectors with a “sizable collection” of anything “valuable” hoard.

    of course clinical hoarders amass all kinds of things regardless of value or usefulness, which could be true, but that would imply Mike knows more about us than would be appropriate o_O:D.
     
  19. rdave

    rdave Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 13, 2013

    Chris always followed up on things and definitely bled GEC... I miss Chris a lot...
     
  20. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Basic Member Basic Member

    697
    Jul 3, 2019
    Congrats! I’m glad you were able to get your prized possession. I wish you many great years with it, though I wish it hadn’t cost you so much!
     

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