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Modern Ginunting

Discussion in 'Sword Discussion' started by calsapher, Dec 26, 2019.

  1. calsapher

    calsapher

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    Jun 13, 2008
    Anyone have any ideas on where to get a modern style Ginunting blade? I want something that deviates from the traditional version, specifically something with a dguard and a micarta handle material. I really like the Bastinelli Seperateur but am looking for something with a d guard full or partial.
     
  2. skyblue

    skyblue

    128
    Jan 30, 2016
    Brian Biegler is your guy!! I'm sure he can build you one with a D Guard...
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  3. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    Hey there mate!
    We've actually done a few modern ginuntings recently. Hand forged from 5160 spring steel over coals in Nepal, differentially edge quenched and with handmade micarta handles as well as buffalo horn/rosewood.

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    Your choice of blade finish, handle material and thickness of grind as well as the option for multiple sheaths.
    Can be made and shipped within 6 weeks of placing an order with photo updates and progress photos within 2 weeks currently.
    Some specs and pricing:
    15" blade, 7" handle with 5" of usable grip. 7mm spine at bolster (easily altered) with distap taper down to 5mm at tip.
    Base price of 210 usd before shipping. Black, orange or khaki micarta handle adds another 65 usd, with multicolour, rag or custom colour micarta adding an additonal 10usd. Upgrade from a stacked Leather Sheath to a kydex sheath will cost 30 usd. An acid washed blade for better corrosion resistance and to show the hamon costs an additional 30usd.

    We've got one in the books currently with a guard and will post some pics of it here once we have them.
     
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  4. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    Here's some photos to show the difference between Satin and Polished Finish, as well as what rosewood ahndles look like vs buffalo horn.

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    If you guys have any questions, just let me know and I'l help out however I can.
    Take care,
    Andrew and the team at Kailash Blades
     
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  5. skyblue

    skyblue

    128
    Jan 30, 2016
    Lol, I'm from the Philippines where the ginunting is standard issue to the country's Marines and various Special Forces units, and with all due respect, that is NOT a ginunting! And a very poor copy, I might add.

    Like I previously stated, contact Brian Biegler for tactical ginuntings, or Top Prado Blades, who imports authentic ginuntings forged by Master Sargent Prado. These are the a tual ginuntings which are issued to the Philippine Marines. A Google search should give you their contact information.
     
  6. mross

    mross

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    Nov 10, 2003
    What ever you call it. it is pretty nice. Like the darker on better.
     
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  7. W. Anderson

    W. Anderson Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 22, 2016
    Does anyone have any experience with the Tradional Filipino Weapons Tactical Ginunting, or any experinece with TFW in general? The price seems too good to be true.
     
  8. David Mary

    David Mary Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 23, 2015
    Those pieces Andrew posted look an awful lot more like traditional Philipino ginuntings than your post looks like anything to do with respect, that's for sure.

    Andrew, those modern non traditional ginuntings look fantastic. I think you are certainly to be commended for taking inspiration from the martial heritage of the Philippine's and evolving such an interesting new take on one of their most iconic combat utility tools.

     
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  9. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    Thanks for the kind words guys! Just as the world interprets and creates their own takes on the nepalese khukuri, we try to do justice to other bladeforms when we make them.

    It's certainly not a traditional ginunting which is great when you consider that the OP was specifically asking for modern/micarta using the bastinelli separateur as a reference. The standard issue blades and top prado knives you've linked look great for someone looking for something more traditional but still combat focused though.
     
  10. Bigfattyt

    Bigfattyt Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 23, 2007
    Those look wicked!
     
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  11. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    Thanks mate!
    We actually recently had a different custom ginunting get ordered. This was a customer's design and has a slightly more traditional design but still with a lot of modern features. For this blade he was looking for a very rugged and tough field blade so we went with an 8mm spine thickness. I'll post some more pics when it's finished.

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    I don't have any personal experience with them but Skallagrim has had mixed experiences with them. He initially had a series of blades with construction and durability issues but over time he helped them to develop and refine the blade he wanted until it was satisfactory to him. I think you shouldn't be scared away by their low prices as south east asian labour can often be quite cheap, especially with traditional bladesmiths. These people historically come from very poor backgrounds and their specialist skills face reduced demand and a small export market in a modern market landscape. I think some of the craftsmanship on some ahndles and scabbards look excellent but their talk of blades being forged then having D2 shavings sprinkled on make me seriously concerned about their metallurgy.
     
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  12. YagyuShintoRyu

    YagyuShintoRyu

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    Apr 15, 2020
    Bastinelli Creations makes one called the "Separateur" that's the tits for around $350. You obviously like it, buy it, and make the D guard yourself. PRO TIP: buy the smallest bicycle gear you can fit your hand into, saw it in half & go from there.
     
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  13. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    Finished up that recent ginunting, and it turned out really nicely. We have a blem version available with a white rosewood handle if anyone's interested.
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  14. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    And the rest of the final pics here!
    What do you guys think? Better than the last full tang design?

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  15. David Mary

    David Mary Moderator Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 23, 2015
    It looks nice. How does it move?
     
  16. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    The handle shape was pretty new for us but we've been really happy with how comfortable it is. The blade is pretty light overall and quick to start moving though the swell near the end and the reduced distal taper gives it quite a bit of power once it starts moving.
     
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  17. GABaus

    GABaus

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    May 7, 2017
    I just looked up what that style of sword looks like and although i can't help answer your question it looks like a perfect size to make out of a medium sized rail clip.
     
  18. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    Got sent through a few more photos of the finished ginunting in the customer's hand and with his kit. He's really happy with it and we have another leaner and more combat focused ginunting on the books :)

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  19. Evan Mattherson

    Evan Mattherson

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    Apr 7, 2020
    Andrew that’s just plain dope, that’d surely be my zombie apocalypse weapon of choice. Great job!
     
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  20. Kailash Blades

    Kailash Blades KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Nov 21, 2015
    Cheers!
    Hold tight for the next one! Should be even cooler
     

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