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Recommendation? New Guys Selling and Trading on BF?

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by Hale Storm, Feb 12, 2020.

Would you buy any knife over $100.00 form a brand new member with zero feedback?

  1. Yes.

    67 vote(s)
    57.8%
  2. No

    49 vote(s)
    42.2%
  1. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    As someone else mentioned, a new member buying used knives on here has most likely bought used items elsewhere before - usually, Ebay. I've sold ~$1,000 knives on here to new members, after confirming they have long-standing Ebay accounts with 100% feedback over hundreds of transactions. And, by confirming, I mean messaging them on Ebay to make sure it's actually them. All of those sales went perfectly smoothly.

    If a new member wants to buy a knife, and they can't (or won't) provide references to accounts with solid standing on other sites, then I get suspicious. It'd be odd for someone's first foray into the world of used items to be on BladeForums.

    As for trading, as others have mentioned, stay away unless the other person has a very strong reputation. I've only traded less than a dozen times, and I've gotten burned twice - both with new-ish members.
     
  2. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    :rolleyes: I probably shouldn't speak for the OP, but I think the point of saying $100 dollars is: that's sort of the average amount of money most people start to feel cautious about risking. If your dollar amount is lower, that's fine, some other folks wouldn't feel much stress about losing twice that.

    I don't buy, sell, or trade much, but I have done all three. I'm certainly more cautious dealing with someone who doesn't have any presence in discussion threads. As has been said, I don't worry much when buying with G&S, am more nervous to sell or trade.

    Mine was, at least for online stuff. :oops: Bladeforums is the only social media I do, and only recently started an ebay account for buying. Haven't figured out how to sell yet. I'm an old Luddite. ;)
     
  3. jlauffer

    jlauffer Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 11, 2016
    Same here. Pretty sure I have left feedback for all of my purchases, but have not received any feedback as a buyer, only as a seller. And even then, think only about half of the buyers have left feedback.
     
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  4. afishhunter

    afishhunter

    Oct 21, 2014
    I find that difficult to believe.
    An Young Luddite-esse, (Luddite -ette?) perhaps, but not an old one. :)

    (Besides, ain't a "Luddite" a him, and "Luddite-esse"(Luddite-ette?) a she?)
     
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  5. 4mer_FMF

    4mer_FMF Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 9, 2016
    If the seller uses the term “vouch” or any derivative thereof in the description, absolutely not.

    Otherwise, if it’s G&S & priced right, sure, I’d give it a try.
     
  6. NWPM2

    NWPM2 Gold Member Gold Member

    121
    Jan 30, 2019
    I'm pretty new here. If I were dealing with myself, I'd buy from myself using G&S. I'd probably sell using G&S to myself unless it seemed like a suspiciously good deal.

    I don't think I'd trade with myself. If I absolutely wanted to trade, I think I'd seek out a well established member. As a newer member, I would likely insist that I send my item first, let them check it out, and then ask them to send their item once/if they were happy.

    It never occurred to me until I saw this thread, but has anyone that traded ever considered or heard of both sides paying each other using G&S? That'd make it a sort of double sale where both sides would have some protection if anything went wrong. Both sides would be out the G&S fees, but it'd be a little bit of insurance for dealing with a member with an unknown history.
     
  7. Hale Storm

    Hale Storm Kydex Whisperer Gold Member

    Sep 18, 2013
    Page 2 and we're already bringing up "vouches". I love it!!!:D
     
  8. DrRollinstein

    DrRollinstein Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 20, 2018
    Goods and Services. Though after a few hundred bucks i'd have to think more about it. And as mentioned about, the use of the term vouches might make me cringe hard enough that i'd rethink the deal.
     
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  9. Jsega51

    Jsega51 Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2015
    This concept has been mentioned in the past but I haven’t done it and not sure about everyone else. It’s a better concept than worrying about a 3rd party being the go-between.
     
  10. mqqn

    mqqn Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 12, 2009
    I would with Paypal G&S as mentioned many times previously.

    I have only done one trade here that I remember, and that was with a long-time member with prolific feedback.

    The other wrinkle that I have had to consider is the long-time member with zero feedback and almost no posts in years. I had a person here purchase a moderately expensive Busse from me and this fine member was in the aforementioned category.

    The sale worked out just perfectly, but I did have to do some soul-searching when I was sending out that package.

    best

    mqqqn
     
  11. TOMBSTONE

    TOMBSTONE Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 1998
    Depends on several factors for me. I prefer a person who has been a member a little while and participates in the community outside of the exchange
     
  12. Ajack60

    Ajack60 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 21, 2013
    Absolutely agree. Most of the buying and selling I’ve done here has been through PM’S with people I’ve interacted with and became friends with. I’ll also look at the WTB forum to see if I’ve got anything someone is looking for. That gives me time to see how active someone is in the community.
    I guess I’m over the gotta have it now phase and would prefer to buy/sell without it being a pain in the butt.
     
  13. AKnife

    AKnife

    May 10, 2009
    No. Too many new guys with single digit posts and no feedback.

    Now it's a different story if it's someone with no feedback and a double or triple number post count and a join date of more than a month or two.

    Vouches = No go.
     
  14. Steven65

    Steven65 Traditional Hog Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2008
    I like to look and see where a member has been active on BF. If they are a genuine knife enthusiast or simply a trader/dealer using BF as a vehicle for sales.

    Whenever I see a deal going south on GBU I always look at the forum post counts and often I find that the problem eminates with someone who has obviously joined BF only to trade/deal. They have zero interest in interacting with the community apart from the sale/purchase.
    In the past we have also had people like this gouging vulnerable members in a purchase and then putting those same knives back up for sale at a huge profit.

    If a new active member on the Busse forum posted a high Dollar knife for sale and I wanted it I would definitely go ahead. But if that same knife was for sale from someone with almost no posts anywhere except the sales forums.......no chance.
     
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  15. jlauffer

    jlauffer Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 11, 2016
    Perfect example on the Exchange (fixed) right now...$9500 and only 5 posts. No idea if the price is reasonable for what it is, but doubt many would be willing to take the chance.
     
  16. AKnife

    AKnife

    May 10, 2009
    That and the guy doesn't know how to post images. Sorry, but I can't trust someone via an internet sale if they don't even know how to use the internet.
     
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  17. NewBlades16

    NewBlades16 Gold Member Gold Member

    881
    Dec 28, 2015
    There are a lot of senior guys out there that have some older mint collections that never use the internet and they are stand up guys. I know how to post images but hardly ever do it and I have a reasonable collection. I have never sold on the exchange and have only purchased a few on the exchange. My entire GEC collection is almost all new in tube knives purchased from retailers.
     
  18. Danke42

    Danke42

    Feb 10, 2015
    I guess that guy with 12 posts flipping limited run PM2s at 100% markup would slot right in here.
     
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  19. sharp_edge

    sharp_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 30, 2015
    I notice most (not all) new guys tend to price their knives higher than seasoned BF members, sometimes much higher (flippers?).

    To the OP question, I am in full agreement with what craytab said.
     
  20. on_the_edge

    on_the_edge Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2006
    I might buy a $100+ knife from a brand new member, but as has been briefly mentioned already, if said new member appears to be a flipper, I won't buy regardless of price or trustworthiness of the individual. Even if they don't appear to be a flipper per se, if they contribute basically nothing to the community at large (i.e., only here to sell their wares), they can sell to someone else.
     
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