Pointless knives , what are they good for ?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by DocJD, Sep 23, 2020.

  1. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    o_O It seems I see more and more "safe" knives with blunted / rounded ends .

    Small / light weight "cleavers" , also . Not really cleavers at all , functionally . IMO .

    Other than to be super safe , PC and absolutely non weaponized (stabby) ...what earthy good are these knives ? :mad::thumbsdown:

    Really don't understand this trend on a functional basis . :confused:

    The sharp point of a knife is extremely useful and I personally have little use for one without . :cool:

    Well , except maybe on a butter knife . :p Or possibly a rescue / emergency tool .

    Please educate me if I'm missing something ! ;)
     
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  2. JAB

    JAB Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 13, 2005
    You don't really need a point for slicing or chopping.
     
  3. bigsurbob

    bigsurbob Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jun 10, 2016

    Sorry.

    I have a pointless knife in my truck as a seatbelt cutter.
     
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  4. navman

    navman Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 4, 2013
    Actually, more than you would think. Police, SAR swimmers, divers, rescue and EMT, boaters on zodiacs, Corpsman, breachers, EOD, investigators....the list goes on.

    Blunted tip knives prevent tearing of material (inadvertently) in hasty/stressed situations. Also safer for cutting material next to skin.

    I carried one on my body armor when doing boat ops. Also dedicated choppers (like competition choppers) don't benefit from a point.
     
  5. navman

    navman Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 4, 2013
    ...adiing that some knives, like the Graham RAZEL, are specifically designed to use the top edge as a chisel or scraper for demolition work and construction...very handy!
     
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  6. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    :) Thanks guys ! Great answers .

    Agreed ...make perfectly good sense for emergency , rescue or other specialty applications . :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:

    But most of what I see , ain't that type . IMO .

    I still believe that a general purpose , EDC utility or field knife , needs to have a sharp point . ;)
     
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  7. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    I take it, the OP doesnt do a lot of sailing.
     
  8. Eversion

    Eversion Making Ti things pretty! Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Gold Member

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    Apr 9, 2020
    Expanding on this point, the sheepsfoot blade profile is said to have been popularized by sailors long ago, as a cutting edge is a necessity when dealing with the ropes aboard, but unpredictably bouncing over waves with a knife in hand makes one likely to inadvertently stab something or someone.
     
  9. DocJD

    DocJD

    Jan 29, 2016
    OK , Thanks ! It's good to learn things . :)
    Here be me only sailin' knives , me hearties ! :rolleyes:

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  10. Halador

    Halador

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    Jul 6, 2013
    Although I also dislike cleaver style knives, I think aesthetics are another reason that people might enjoy them. Having a flat "nose" on the knife lends itself to a different visual appeal than many other knives.

    Also there could be argued to be a small benefit in longevity. The straight edge acts like a wharncliffe but the height of the blade and the flat front means that over time, as the knife is sharpened, the length and shape of the blade will not change. This means that a cleaver style blade theoretically has a much longer lifespan that many other blade shapes without losing utility or becoming unsafe. So if a person only wanted ONE knife, and their needs could be met by a wharncliffe or sheepsfoot, they could choose a cleaver style instead and get a safer blade with many of the same benefits.
     
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  11. gadunz

    gadunz

    Dec 4, 2012
    Slaughterer's skinner, rounded upswept point for less hide & gut stabbing.
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  12. Eli Chaps

    Eli Chaps Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Apr 20, 2018
    I'm overseeing a project that has had me interacting with numerous contractors. One journeyman electrician has been using and abusing whatever the Gerber cleaver model is for the past two weeks. Opening boxes, cutting them up, quick slices on this and that, zipties (cringe), scraping paint off, etc.

    He's been at it for thirty years and seems to love that knife. He was very proud to show it to me when I asked about it. Even led to me sending him down the path to learning how to sharpen.

    Although it isn't my style, and certainly not my brand, the blade shape itself looks to be very functional as a utility type blade. It has enough point for precision like scoring or something.
     
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  13. skyhorse

    skyhorse Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 30, 2010
    Many knife are purpose designed for sailors, EMTs , equestrians etc.
     
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  14. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    99.9% of my knife use is cutting or slicing and doesn't require a sharpened tip at all, so I would say said knives are only about 0.1% less functional that knives with a sharp point.
     
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  15. jideta

    jideta Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 8, 2020
    Carried a Spyderco Mariner for a couple of years and never felt like I was missing something...
    Sheepsfoot is a great GP blade.
    Blunt point knives are good for everything except stabbing.
     
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  16. Horsewright

    Horsewright KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 4, 2011
    Lot of cowboys use a rounded tip knife and in cowboy vernacular its known as a "nutter"

    Here's a deal I did a while back on some. I was hesitant to build such a knife at first because I too was in the same thought process as @DocJD

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    On our own ranch, the wife asked me to make a damascus one. She wanted a smaller knife that could be passed around to whoever was doing the cutting:

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    Here our young friend Emma is using it to cut her first calf:

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    My daughter used it too:

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    The wife as well:

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    This knife is used just for this specialized task. Each gal pictured above has and carries a regular edc too:

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    This little guy has worked well for us:

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  17. MayHemAndHaw

    MayHemAndHaw

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    May 5, 2020
    Having seen those photos I think I'm now less scared of pointed knives than "the Nutter.
     
  18. USMCPOP

    USMCPOP Gold Member Gold Member

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    Jan 6, 2016
    Pointless knives are great for children. And for some tasks, there's no point in having one.

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  19. Boombats

    Boombats Gold Member Gold Member

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    Mar 21, 2010
    This
     
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  20. afishhunter

    afishhunter Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 21, 2014
    This.

    The lambsfoot is also an excellent general purpose blade, by the way. :)
     
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