Random Thought Thread

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by Nathan the Machinist, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
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  2. Big DJ

    Big DJ Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 29, 2013
    The smoke is really bad here today, you can taste it in the air.
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  3. bluemax_1

    bluemax_1 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 17, 2014
    It isn't just politics, it's everything.

    That post you made many months ago, about why we need to consider why we think the way we do and how we arrived at our position, is an important one.

    It's always a good idea to look at as much information from all sides as possible, and weigh that info before determining a position. Being open minded also means being willing to reassess a position or conclusion based on new information/data, and/or to consider different perspectives.

    As for the CPK forum, I concur that it's a lot easier to keep the peace by avoiding topics like politics. Plenty of other places to discuss and debate those things.
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  4. 000Robert

    000Robert Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2020
    The problem is that some people can't talk about those things rationally like adults. That's the problem.
  5. Standard78

    Standard78 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2015
    I mostly use my driver's license to buy stuff that impairs my ability to drive.
  6. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
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  7. JustinFournier

    JustinFournier Gold Member Gold Member

    May 7, 2012
    I think it’s a lot more to do with the primitive aspect of the current “Us vs Them” cultural dichotomy.

    I get the Brother vs Brother. Then brothers vs Dad. Family vs Family, Neighborhood vs Neighborhood, Country vs Country dynamic.

    But it’s moved to the extreme for our standards. Not historical standards. Tribes used to settle these matters through outright extermination of one another not long ago.

    For decades certain groups of people have seemed to believe themselves better or superior to the “other” without any valid premise but that has never been the case. I think your average human is capable of the same level of evil as any other and that groups of people are adopted to their environment. In all the places I’ve lived, several continents now the average person is the same no matter what. They want the same things. Secure food supplies, clean water, appropriate housing, wise-spread security, access to the economy, opportunities for their children and so on. There are still the exceptions as there always has been of course. But all in all.

    In-groups and out-groups will always be a thing, I get that. We prove unable or unwilling to see ourselves in one another.

    I’m not talking about racism or classism either. Just good old fashioned ignorance.

    I was taught at the most basic level that generally speaking in most societies Conservatives value tradition and work to uphold traditional values.

    Progressives are the ones that come up with the new ideas and push the envelope.

    Conservatives fight against those ideas, and that’s good, they keep some of the bad ones out.

    But some of the ideas are accepted, and become ideas that the Conservatives then fight to protect.

    It’s possible a person can play both roles in their life.

    No one said one side was a terrible Nazi etc.

    The division, the constant attacks of one another. It’s like many in the west just follow leaders now, they follow a cult of personality.

    They don’t discuss and argue policy or support individuals in one area but not in another. They go to get an opinion from someone they think is right.

    Really, it reminds me of the study with the Monkeys in an enclosure with a hose and bananas on top of a ladder. Let me see if I remember it correctly.

    Short version is scientists put monkeys in an enclosure with a ladder in it. They suspended bananas above the ladder. Whenever a monkey went to grab the bananas they sprayed the monkey with a hose. I think they sprayed other monkeys too.

    The monkeys learned to not go up the ladder and eventually they all stopped.

    Then the scientists replaced one monkey with a new one. That monkey saw the bananas but the other monkeys stopped him from going up the ladder.

    This process continued till all the monkeys had been replaced, and no monkey in the enclosure had been sprayed, but no monkey went up the ladder.

    A younger me noted this horizontal reinforcement and I still see it in the world all the time. I wondered, why didn’t the Monkeys all band together and figure out who has the hose. Then it could be bananas for all. One big happy monkey family getting along and sharing bananas.

    An older more cynical me thinks that the monkeys did in fact figure out who had the hose. Instead of getting along in happy banana land, they now fight to see who gets to control the hose, the one ring or “the legitimate use of violence in a given geographic area.”
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  8. Lorien

    Lorien KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 5, 2005
    Carothers Performance Knives- Knives for righties AND lefties!
  9. tinfoil hat timmy

    tinfoil hat timmy

    Aug 21, 2014
    Mon keys too?
  10. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    I liked this post and then unliked it so I could like it again.
  11. Nystagmus

    Nystagmus Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 22, 2016
    Something about your posts reminded me of this. Anyway, remembering this song made me laugh and figured I'd share. My random thought of the day: French Gun

  12. 000Robert

    000Robert Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 28, 2020
    Never heard of it. Not my style of music either.
  13. Winston_Smith

    Winston_Smith Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 18, 2019

  14. WValtakis

    WValtakis Hand Engraving, Anodizing and Embellishment Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 29, 2004
    Always stop to smell the roses...

  15. bluemax_1

    bluemax_1 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 17, 2014
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  16. fonedork

    fonedork Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    What if dinosaurs had really big beaks?
  17. Big DJ

    Big DJ Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 29, 2013
    Some did.
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  18. Nystagmus

    Nystagmus Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 22, 2016
    Good show. I’d say the first season was exceptional.

    The actor, Michael Dorman, does all of the music…in the first season he plays guitar and sings folk music about his intelligence operations (using this term very loosely).

    This song is from the second season where he suffering from a head injury and likely some ongoing mental health problems, but is trying to stay on task to kill an Iranian official in France. This season’s music is all accompanied by a full band and appears to be in his mind....I suspect the show is trying to offer some insight into his troubled thoughts while working on behalf of the U.S.

    Anyway, this show is definitely not for everyone. But the way it handles aspects of violence and identity resonate with me. And it is hilarious.
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  19. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    Morning CPKers!
  20. Tigerden

    Tigerden Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 1, 2019
    ^^^^ Good Morning CPK Brother. Nice pooch!
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