Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by dalee100, Sep 10, 2008.

  1. chuckgp

    chuckgp

    349
    Dec 16, 2014
    Checked my swayback work knife with the unknown, AKA 'Quickcelluloid' handle material: no cracks but has shrunk back from the end of the knife and bolsters. Currently quarantined from the others.
     
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  2. afishhunter

    afishhunter Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 21, 2014
    Just In! :D
    RR2040 Classic Carbon Barlow and RR719 Old Yellah with badge shield Barlow.
    (RR2040 matches my RR1740 Classic Carbon large stockman)
    (RR719 matches my RR603 large stockman and RR597 full size trapper)

    RR2040:
    Gap upper half cover/bolster, pile side; Cover cut wrong; Cosmetic.
    Slight gap, pile side bolster/liner; Cosmetic.
    No other noticeable to naked eyes gaps.

    Half Stops;
    Primary Clip Point: F/F/F
    Secondary Pen: F/P/F ; Cosmetic
    (F= flush/ P= proud/ S= sunk)

    No blade rub; Primary clip point is leaning a hair to mark side; Cosmetic.
    Primary and secondary pull is a “5” out of the box. Both have good talk, no discernable blade wiggle.
    Even grinds, both blades arm hair shaving sharp out of box.

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    RR719: (does not have half stops)
    Lined bolsters Mark side has small amount dried white epoxy in the groove; Cosmetic
    No noticeable to naked eye gaps.
    Both blades centered.
    No discernable blade wiggle.
    Pull on both blades is a “5” and smooth
    Even Grinds, both blades arm hair shaving sharp out of box.
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    Last edited: Jan 18, 2021
  3. bigfish64

    bigfish64 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 9, 2020
    Great review! Thanks for the information, been looking at the carbon. Don’t want to pay shipping for just one RR, so I usually add them on to an order to get to the free shipping.:thumbsup:
     
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  4. afishhunter

    afishhunter Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 21, 2014
    This is my second Classic Carbon. I also have the RR1740 large stockman.

    IMHO, if there is a pattern you like in the "Classic Carbon" series you like, and your budget can withstand the hit, you should get it/them before they're sold out. (who knows if there will be a second run? I sure don't.)
    Both of mine are keepers. I strongly suspect the cover/bolster gap, and bolster/liner gap on the RR2040 are a fluke. None of my 60 or so other Rough Ryder/Rough Rider have them. :)
     
  5. glocktenman

    glocktenman

    Jul 20, 2008
    I nabbed a cub lockback with buckshot bone. Pretty cool little knife. It looks very good and is sharp. I'm taking my small cotton sampler out of the rotation. Let's see how the cub flows....gonna get some pocket time this week.
     
  6. longbow1968

    longbow1968

    244
    Sep 9, 2020
    Got this one in today. Quality seems above standard RR level, which is not bad to begin with. Blade is well centered with even grind and good walk and talk. I would say the pull is above medium, maybe a six. It was sharp out of the tube, but is shaving now after a little ceramic stone work. I probably would have liked it even better if it was a sheepsfoot blade, rather than the one-armed style, but no complaints.
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  7. Biochemdawg

    Biochemdawg Gold Member Gold Member

    435
    Aug 11, 2018
    Just replaced the blue aluminum scales of the RR2103 If the VG10 series. I haven’t finished yet but was too excited and had to grab a picture.
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  8. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Any chance someone could have been admiring your knife and dropped it? I don't doubt it is possible the material can and will shrink, but it looks kinda "dropsy" to me.
     
  9. afishhunter

    afishhunter Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 21, 2014
    Awesome! Looks great.:)
     
  10. Biochemdawg

    Biochemdawg Gold Member Gold Member

    435
    Aug 11, 2018
    thank you very much. Pretty proud how it turned out
     
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  11. jrawk

    jrawk

    Jul 14, 2014
    I believe it. The black covers on mine are receding heavily as well. Micarta doesn't do that. We've all been duped.
     
  12. afishhunter

    afishhunter Basic Member Basic Member

    Oct 21, 2014
    Any possibility a bad batch of Micarta got through QC of whatever company made it?

    Have y'all with this problem notified Rough Ryder/SMKW?
    I'd guess this would fall under their lifetime guarantee against manufacturing defects.
     
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  13. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Can we see pictures of yours also?
     
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  14. Misplaced Hillbilly

    Misplaced Hillbilly Gold Member Gold Member

    May 16, 2018
    Hmm I'll check mine later see if it looks like they're shrinking. It never really looked like micarta to me however I assumed it was a paper micarta. Although it looked and felt like Bucks phenolic resin they use on fixed blades. Though I've never seen or heard of it shrinking and dimensional stability is listed as one of its qualities.
     
  15. jrawk

    jrawk

    Jul 14, 2014
  16. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    That is what I am seeing in mine, somewhat uniform shrinkage evidenced across the covers. The photos Alan posted looked more like what I have seen from dropped knives, than from knives that have cover shrinkage.
     
  17. jrawk

    jrawk

    Jul 14, 2014
    i'll wager another 6 months to a year mine has developed more cracking.

    Editted to add, mine stays in a humidity controlled room. So its neither drying out or overly saturated.
     
  18. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    It is very disappointing to see shrinkage like that from a material that should be stable. Myself and someone also also noticed that our previously centered blades, became off-centered. The only explanation I can think of for that would be due to the cover shrinkage. These knives might be literally pulling themselves apart.
     
  19. Fire King

    Fire King Gold Member Gold Member

    138
    Sep 1, 2020
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  20. HEMI 49

    HEMI 49 Gold Member Gold Member

    672
    Aug 9, 2018
    This is a RR 1751 Canoe....... G10 handles.... The G10 is pulling away from the bolster and liner..... It appears they bonded the G10 to the liner with red epoxy.....
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