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Rough Ryder Reserve: New Premium Rough Ryder Line

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by L.H.S, Sep 15, 2020.

  1. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    I was trying to find anything on that, but was unable. It’s probably whenever the ship docks in Tennessee :p .
    I just sharpened both their 440A and T10 carbon steel tonight. I found both of them to be soft; by feel (Take that for what it’s worth) the T10 was softer than the 440A. I think the 440A might be better that my Gerber in 420. The T10 took a wicked sharp edge. No idea how either will hold up their edges but my expectations aren’t high, which is fine for this product.

    do you have any experience with these standard Rough Ryder steels? I’m curious, because I’d be nervous to have them on a $50 knife based on what I’ve seen so far. D2 seems like more of a slam dunk, or at the very least 440C.
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  2. colubrid

    colubrid Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 26, 2005

    Where can i find the VG-10 stockman with the plain handles (black knife pictured on the right)?

    I looked online and only find the bolstered VG-10. I prefer the non bolstered one you have.
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  3. hornetguy

    hornetguy Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 11, 2015
    It comes with the two tone aluminum scales on it...no bolsters. Just unscrew those, and put whatever you want on it.
    I put those ebony scales on that one. It's not terribly difficult to do... just find some decent 2mm screws the right length for whatever thickness scales you decide to put on it.
  4. L.H.S

    L.H.S Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 1, 2013
    I mean, how dare they give you the option to pinch it open easily or use the one hand open feature.

    Very nice! I don’t worry too much about steel, but I felt it was worth trying one of these. Still, the handles are not a good look in my opinion. I haven’t got up the gumption to make different ones, but yours look great!

    I think they just don’t really do brand communication that well. They didn’t announce the new Queen knives, other than talking about them in a live stream a bit. They didn’t announce the new work knife, other than on their Instagram story I think. They did do more of an announcement on these Rough Ryder Reserves.

    How do these affect the significance of our cutlery history?

    I know they’re not going to affect my enjoyment of GEC (gonna keep buying afaict), they’re not going to affect my buying of Case (I don’t really buy them; don’t like the unpinned shields, haven’t had great luck with quality control), etc.

    No, but I’ll ask. Also gonna ask again if the shields are pinned.
  5. johnnywizzo


    Mar 1, 2018
    A match-strike nail nick just might come in handy if you have some strike anywhere matches and need to start a fire.
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  6. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    I love American pocket knives, but I also have German, English, Japanese, French and Italian made traditional pocket knives. I may decide not to purchase a RR based on the qualities of the knife, but I won't avoid purchasing a foreign made knife solely on the country of origin.

    I may not buy a knife because of its beauty, value and significance, but country of origin is not a factor for me.
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2020
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  7. Fisher1573

    Fisher1573 Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 13, 2012
    I didn't realize they had a purpose. I thought it was just a poor aesthetic decision. Does anyone know how well the nail nicks work for striking matches? Might be handy for my pipe smoking.
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  8. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    It depends on the sharpness of the edges of the match-strike pull.
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  9. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    they aren't super sharp- I suspect the polishing of the blades takes some of the toothyness off of it. I will say that although it has a crescent shape, on my RR barlow they extend for what would be a long pull's worth of length.

    In other news---

    So fondling my knew RR, I think I'd expect the Reserve line to be chunkier than Case or GEC knives of a similar ilk. One of the sacrifices these knives seem to make is bulkiness... which in my mind stands to reason. It's probably easier to make a thick chunky knife with less dimensional tolerance constraints than it is to make something more... what's the word... sophisticated?

    I am enjoying the chunkiness of the barlow. feels like I'm holding a hunk of steel, which is kind of what I think a barlow should be. A useful hunk of steel for cutting things. If the RRR line made a barlow that feels similar to this with better quality control, micarta handles and D2, I think I'd get one.
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  10. joeradza

    joeradza Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 6, 2014
    That's my observation of the swayback work knife in comparison to the GEC 47 Viper. It's obviously thicker and more robust than the viper which to me is a tad too slim. The upcoming 2020 BladeForums Viper looks to be the "mama bear" just right.
  11. CelloDan

    CelloDan Basic Member Basic Member

    Dec 2, 2017
    I've been thinking about this and for me the country of origin becomes an influencing factor when it comes to traditional knives only.
    For modern knives it would make no difference at all where they come from.
    When I "discovered" the traditional world of knives I became fascinated with the stories and the history behind the them.
    The appeal of getting a traditional knife made in it's country of origin is certainly strong.
    I read about the origins of Case and Buck in America, the laguioles and opinels in France, Grohmann knives in Canada, my very much loved lambsfoot from Sheffield England and so on.

    I am originally from Argentina and one day I would like to buy a Facón, the traditional gaucho knife. I will get one from an Argentine maker. It would not make sense to me to buy it from a French maker let's say , the same as I would not be interested in a Laguiole from Argentina if there is such a thing.

    Now... to be honest... I do have 4 RR and they are quite good and I like them. I gave a canoe to my daughter and she loves it too.
    However that bit of magic in owing, using a traditional knife is not as strong ( which makes no difference in their ability to cut things )

    Just sharing my feelings about traditional knives and not meaning to derail the thread at all.
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  12. LastRodeo

    LastRodeo Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    From my perspective, you and are in agreement. In my opinion, your preference as it pertains to a Facón would fall in the "significance" category.

    Thanks for reminding me of Opinel and Laguiole. I have to amend my previous post to include France.
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  13. davemonkey

    davemonkey Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 20, 2014
    I knew it reminded me of something. The Kayak pattern is similar to the old Bulldog Groundhog knives.
  14. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    That's a pretty wild knife! It's like a reverse crescent pattern. cool connection there. I honestly think those blade would be better than the "reverse tanto" blades they have on there, but again to my point about "reverse tanto" not really meaning very much to me...
  15. Jathes

    Jathes Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 6, 2016
    The shield looks like a plumb bob to me
  16. mbkr

    mbkr Gold Member Gold Member

    May 20, 2018
    Now that you mention it... hmmm.gif
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  17. Will Power

    Will Power Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    They're an affectation and always were even on true Old School knives. If you've got non safety strike anywhere matches you can strike them on a wall, boot or nail like Clint ;)
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  18. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I am very interested in seeing the canoe pattern RR Reserve knife in person. Basically at this point in my life, I have stopped buying most knives "just because" for the most part. The forum knife I get pretty much regardless of need; That is about it now. I am not a collector and never intend to be with knives. So, I do want to handle one of these knives to get the feel of it. If I like what I'm seeing, I'll get one. But it will require a store visit which I have been avoiding this year even though I pass through the area probably a dozen times a year.

    I am comfortable with D2. It is Chinese D2 (I assume) which from my experience is a hit or miss affair.
  19. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    A plumb bob! hah! it sure does. That makes it better for me.

    Not to mention I'm not sure where I could even find strike anywhere matches anymore...
    I'm sure online, but I couldn't possibly conceive a store that would carry them. I think the modern matches are called "safety matches"... and I'm sure that's for a reason, haha.
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  20. EngrSorenson

    EngrSorenson Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jul 3, 2019
    Does "Chinese D2" not meet ASTM standards for being referred to as D2? I'd imagine (barring heat treatment quality) that for something to be called D2 it'd have to meet that standard. I'm hoping someone can answer that one- I know "Carbon Steel" or "440 Steel" terms are used to be ambiguous deliberately, usually when a budget steel is being used. I'd be surprised if SMKW calls out D2 and it's anything but real D2.
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