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second anvil sample - not as bad as I feared

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Atlas Knife Company, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. Atlas Knife Company

    Atlas Knife Company KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Early beta testing tells me that the face is good at HRC 43, and my tester was pleased with it. more info to come, but I'm placing the order for 50 next week.
     
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  2. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    1546791907114.jpg 1546796428198.jpg 1546793771075.jpg 1546797049722.jpg IMG_20190106_115517.jpg IMG_20190106_123306.jpg 1546796428198.jpg 1546804202660.jpg 1546806602363.jpg 1546806621291.jpg I gave the anvil a good workout yesterday. Forged on it for a couple hours, then worked the surface around the framing hammer marks with a 1.5 kilo hammer for about 100 blows. Photos of how I made the laminated base from a 10' 2X10 and two pieces of 2X4.
    Photos of using a short chain with a hook on the end to lift and cary the anvil.
    Shots of the 11" suminagashi with shirogami core billet on the anvil, after drawing out to 16" and rough shaping, after cleanup and HT, after post HT cleanup.
     
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2019
  3. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    1546797793434.jpg 1546805901821.jpg IMG_20190106_153215.jpg IMG_20190106_153245.jpg IMG_20190106_130124.jpg IMG_20190106_130136.jpg IMG_20190106_145048.jpg Shots of the face after the workout. Closeup of spine and edge showing core centered after forging out the blade. The five big dents are what was done by Charles' framing hammer.
     
  4. DanF

    DanF KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    472
    Apr 17, 2017
    That looks very promising.
     
  5. Atlas Knife Company

    Atlas Knife Company KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    I had no idea framing hammers were that hard
     
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  6. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    I never tested one, but I bet they are Rc50 range. Also, the head design and handle length give increased power to the blow.

    IIRC, they are water hardened and tempered. I know a framing hammer should NEVER strike any hardened steel, stone, or concrete because shards will go flying.
     
  7. Big Chris

    Big Chris SAHD/Knifemaker Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Apr 1, 2010
    I am very interested in one now as well.
    Been following this thread and looking forward to the release.
     
  8. M.McAlevy

    M.McAlevy KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    278
    Feb 16, 2014
    Design looks very nice. Only doing stock removal now but want to get a small forge and anvil to play around with. Might be a one stop shop! Nice work.
     
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  9. Will52100

    Will52100

    Dec 4, 2001
    I love the design, but while it'll work, and work well, I'd want it to be a little harder. I make all my forging hammers around 50Rc, but then my anvil is 60Rc.
     
  10. Atlas Knife Company

    Atlas Knife Company KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    I've already talked with the foundry and will be switching to C50 instead of C45 steel. It will be $5.21 increased cost, but the face will be 50-55 HRC. I believe it would be worth it to produce the better product.
     
  11. DanF

    DanF KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    472
    Apr 17, 2017
    Excellent news! I think this will be a game changer for many
     
  12. Will52100

    Will52100

    Dec 4, 2001
    Outstanding, that would really make it a wonderful blade smith anvil.
     
  13. Maelstrom78

    Maelstrom78

    Sep 21, 2013
    Very nice!!
     
  14. Wyo Coyote

    Wyo Coyote

    21
    Nov 25, 2015
    I'm looking forward to when they will be ready.
     
  15. Salem Straub

    Salem Straub KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 20, 2008
    Yes, 50-55 would be good!
     
  16. Metalhead0483

    Metalhead0483

    449
    Jan 17, 2008
    Okay NOW I'm excited! Can't wait to hear more about these.
     
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  17. Justin Schmidt

    Justin Schmidt Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Any updates on this?
     
  18. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    Any updates on this?
    Well, I shipped the prototype back. That won't help you guys waiting for the new batch, though :p:p:p.

    I really like this design. It will fill a badly vacant area in affordable and reliable forging equipment. An Atlas mini forge and an Atlas anvil plus a hammer and pair of tongs will get a new smith going strong. Both will last him as long as he wants. Bigger equipment isn't needed unless you go into making damascus.
     
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  19. Justin Schmidt

    Justin Schmidt Schmidt Forge Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 18, 2016
    Awesome, very excited for this. Hopefully Charles can start cranking them out soon!
     
  20. Atlas Knife Company

    Atlas Knife Company KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    The go ahead was given a couple months ago to proceed with the first batch after Stacy's testing. The final molds will be pour-tested this week, the main batch should be poured next week, with heat treating the week after(hopefully). I expect to have them in mid April.
    Stacy, could you give the height dimensions for the 2x12 you used for the stand, and what thickness plywood at the bottom? I'll probably go with a 2x12 for the base so I will make the dimension adjustments on my end.

    Charles
     

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