Spyderco Fakes & Knock Offs Info

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by RevDevil, Dec 4, 2010.

  1. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    I've never seen one but I also haven't looked. Seems like with that blade grind and handle milling it would take a lot of effort to do a really good fake. A waist of effort on a discontinued knife. Always worry about ebay. This forum market place? I wouldn't worry at all if dealing with a well established member with good feedback.

    It's a great knife!
     
  2. les_garten

    les_garten

    117
    Sep 21, 2010
    They did a Hell of a Lionspy...
     
  3. loxs

    loxs

    3
    Jan 30, 2016
    Is it normal that I can feel the logo on my Native 5's blade? My PM2 doesn't feel that way. You can't feel the logo at all when touching the blade. On the other hand, the logo on my Native 5 feels like a dent in the blade.
     
  4. les_garten

    les_garten

    117
    Sep 21, 2010
    The Logos are all a little different usually having to do with what Factory made them and the expense of the knife possibly.

    My Native 5 was made in Golden, CO as was the PM2. Both of mine feel the same and are very flat on the blade and smooth.

    The Taiwan and Japan Logos are much different and very 3D like
     
  5. loxs

    loxs

    3
    Jan 30, 2016
    Yeah, mine says Golden, CO too... but feels 3D
     
  6. les_garten

    les_garten

    117
    Sep 21, 2010
    You know how we like pictures...
     
  7. jackwrh

    jackwrh

    12
    Jan 6, 2005
    Hi, everybody, I'm new here. Thanks for this forum, I learnt a lot from everyone, recently I just bought a PM2, and searched much knives website, I know something about fake PM2, so I want to show them to everyone who want to buy this type. (Sorry, My English is very limited, if you find any mistake, please tell me, I'll correct it, thanks!)
    (1)True one has a very tiny patterns on the scales, fake has bigger patterns;
    (2)True's back liner plate, at left coner, it's a steep turn, fake is a smooth turn;
    (3)True's back clipper is polished, fake is drawbenched;
    (4)True's packing box, on the small white paper, the mumber [0] is very strong, like a rectangle shape, but fake is smooth 0, like a ellipse;
    (5)The blade on the top, rear place, for press thumb, there are many sawteeth, true's should be dissymmetrical triangle shapes, but fake are standard triangles;
    (6)The manufacture quality is different, fake is more sticky on deployment;
    (7)True's must be used some blue glue on every bolts, but fake use transparent glue;
    (8)True's blade, near the axis hole, has printed propduction date, but fake has no numbers;
    (9)At scales' edges, true's has very thin chamfer, about 0.8mm, but fake has wider chamfer than it, about 1.5mm maybe;
    (10)From top of the knife, we can see sections of two liners, true one left side is shorter, right side is longer, but fake are the same lengths;
    (11)Every hole and shapes of liners have one starting point, for lazer cut, but fake has no this symptom.
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    Left is fake! notice it's G-10's parttern and sawteeth.
    http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w=580.../d67d057f9e2f070891acf3a8e824b899a801f21d.jpg
    Left one is fake.
    http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D5.../aa5990119313b07ed8cb84d90dd7912396dd8c1c.jpg
    Please notice the difference between two [0].
    http://imgsrc.baidu.com/forum/w%3D5.../529079b5c9ea15ce32e134d8b7003af33b87b27b.jpg
    Fake's words is stronger and darker.
    [​IMG]
    Left is fake.
     
    Last edited: Feb 8, 2016
  8. loxs

    loxs

    3
    Jan 30, 2016
  9. Sharp Guy

    Sharp Guy Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 6, 2016
    Your N5 looks like mine. I would think the FRN handle would be difficult and very expensive to fake.
     
  10. les_garten

    les_garten

    117
    Sep 21, 2010
    Very interesting, thank-you.
     
  11. les_garten

    les_garten

    117
    Sep 21, 2010
    That knife is perfect. The Logo has that Gold outline that is just like mine and I have not seen that outline on the clones. The PM2 has that same Gold outline around the spider logo on the Silver blade. Black blade PM2 has a flat featureless Logo.

    Look at you PM2 Logo closely, you should see that outline around the Spider
     
  12. les_garten

    les_garten

    117
    Sep 21, 2010
    You haven't watched my Endura fake videos obviously...
     
  13. Sharp Guy

    Sharp Guy Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 6, 2016
    I just watched your vids. Very interesting! Thx!
     
  14. les_garten

    les_garten

    117
    Sep 21, 2010
    They may miss some nit picky details but they do pretty good. The Southard knock off is very close and the Lionspy and Techno and Slysz Bowie look very close although I have not held one.
     
  15. jackwrh

    jackwrh

    12
    Jan 6, 2005
    I know there are some types having fakes made by YangJiang, as Endula 4, Delica 4, PM, PM2, be careful! If any item is out of my threads, refuse it! Fake's price usually be 1/10 original...
     
  16. funghiman

    funghiman

    46
    Jan 7, 2014
    Military, Native, UKPK, (US made)
    Civilian, Dragonfly, Harpy, Jot Singh Khalsa, Karambit, Police, Poliwog, Spin, (Japan made)
    Domino, Hungarian, PITS, Rubicon, Southard, Techno, Tuff, Vallotton, Tenacious (Taiwan and Mainland China made) are all on this list.
    They even copied some of the fixed blades, like Rock Salt and Reverse.
    Just for reference, I understand this could never be the complete list.
    An easy way to evade these fakes are never buy anything with "OEM" in its title, or with the picture in which the Spyderco logo is absent, intentionally covered or PSed.
    The items for sale only with their Model Number but not product name are suspicious if not 100% counterfeit.
    Last but not least, always check with Spyderco's MSRP. If the price shown is way out the rational range, just don't lay your fingers on it.
     
  17. Donna V

    Donna V

    69
    Sep 6, 2007
    fake Reverse from aliexpress
    [Link removed, we don't want to advertise for thieves]
     
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  18. RevDevil

    RevDevil

    Nov 9, 2009
    Maybe use an image host next time, rather than posting a direct link, we don't advertise for counterfeiters here. Thanks
     
  19. ShepardCC

    ShepardCC

    Dec 4, 2012
    Seen a few of the fixed blades copied. Ronin 2 and Reverse
     

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