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Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by ncrockclimb, Sep 27, 2018.

  1. braillediver

    braillediver Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 6, 2007
    Funny I've worked with people who always had issues with the tools. They could never sit down and work they were always dicking around with their bench setup and their tools.

    Balance that with the knowledge people actually make fantastic knives with basic hand tools= The bovine fecal matter is deep.
     
  2. Serviam

    Serviam

    11
    Sep 10, 2012
    Looks like Survive Knives is releasing 2 new limited edition models - get your preorder in now.
    New newsletter out, these guys are out of control.

    They only mention. Millet Knives 8 times (seriously, 8 times). Newsletter reads like a bad breakup post on Facebook.

    Must be frustrating for people waiting on knives to see them advertising new stuff to pre-order.



     
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  3. craytab

    craytab

    Jan 26, 2012
    "The knife Syndicate" lol! It even sounds like a criminal organization!
     
  4. Heirphoto

    Heirphoto Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 13, 2007
    Looks like Survive gets to keep the 2 new knife designs since Millet was behind on their rent.....wait!?! wasn't it Millet's shop not Survives? I'm getting confused here as the story keeps changing lol
     
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  5. Quiet

    Quiet "That guy" Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    This was such an entertaining read, as they try their hardest to throw Millit under the bus. I genuinely and deeply hope that Millit responds with a "newsletter" of their own, and explaining all the ways Guy is a scumbag, and a screwup. That would be awesome.

    LOL, also:

    "We've decided to make them available to you! Quite frankly, Millit's departure did leave a lot of little holes around the shop that need to be filled for optimal efficiency. Smaller manual equipment to keep the machine shop moving smoothly, additional workbenches, a MASSIVE amount of tools and tooling needed for ramping up... Just a lot of random stuff. The sales from the Tac knives will go directly toward these items as well as new staff to start immediately scaling up production. We already have several promising leads being tested out this week!"

    Translation, we were broke, and didn't have any tools or machines of our own, so we've had to try to drum up money to replace everything Millit took with them.
     
  6. Quiet

    Quiet "That guy" Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Exactly, that schpiel was spin of the highest order, making it sound like S?K was the solvent one who was graciously allowing Millit to occupy THEIR space, instead of the other way around. It's disgusting, and if I were Millit, I would make SOME kind of a response.
     
  7. dogboye

    dogboye Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    I guess we now know what their next excuse for delays is going to be. And yes... it is frustrating. I want to be able to respond to their newsletter to everyone and say, "You're not going to get your knives for YEARS, if ever."

    I almost wish that Millet sues the devil out of Survive, even though it would probably mean I lose money. It would almost be worth it to see them finally ended. Their whole business is a ponzi scheme of the highest order. If they didn't get new sales, they WOULD go bankrupt.
     
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  8. Bmurray

    Bmurray Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 9, 2012
    Great knives. However if I want a Survive, I just buy on the secondary market. They need to go visit a real knife making company in their own back yard, Esee/Rowen. Ask them how they take care of their customers as they're the future of the business. No customer cheating pre-paid pre-orders. Crazy that the credit card and paypal hasn't shut them down yet. I have a custom Skookum Bush Tool coming next week that was a 5+ year wait. This is made as a custom by one guy. F-Survive. Just had to vent
     
  9. braillediver

    braillediver Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 6, 2007
    Maybe work with a once reputable company like Millet.................

    After all these years of lies and excuses it seems painfully obvious survive! knives is running a ponzi scheme and not an actual knife making business.

    It would seem impossible to Not learn and Not make the knives. Unless you had no intention of ever doing it.
     
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  10. OathofStone

    OathofStone

    7
    Feb 1, 2021
    This probably won't be a very popular opinion. I wasn't tracking any of the old drama with Survive Knives.

    My experience with them has been short but excellent. I contacted them with questions and got answers. I placed an order and it was shipped within the stated timelines on their website.

    I'm not sure if I would have ordered from them after reading this thread, maybe. Leaning towards no. But after my recent experience with them I'm placing another order or two.

    They're very very nice knives.

    I can't speak to their past behavior but but it seems to me like they're sorting themselves out and getting products out.
     
  11. dogboye

    dogboye Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Was your order a pre-order or a second? I've got two that I've had on pre-order for 58 months. Yes, you read that correctly, 58 MONTHS!! Yes, I'm stupid. I SHOULD have cancelled those LONG ago. But TBH, I lost track how long they have been on order until I just looked when I start writing this reply.

    THAT IS LUDICROUS!

    Now, I will admit, I pre-ordered a 5.1 and got it within about 12 months. Still bad, and well beyond their stated delivery date. But not THAT bad. And I ordered a couple of pre-sale 4.7s and got them within about 30-45 days. That was still longer then they were stating for those, but not unreasonable.

    BUT 5 FREAKIN' YEARS?!?!!!!!

    So, all this being said, I'm emailing them either this afternoon or tomorrow and asking where the heck my 5-year-old orders are?!
     
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  12. OathofStone

    OathofStone

    7
    Feb 1, 2021
    That's a lot man, fuck. I'm definitely not trying to take away from the stress and frustration you guys and girls have gone through waiting on these blades.

    I didn't pre-order or pick up a second. I got one that was listed as available on their website (I stay away from pre-orders myself).

    One of their new employee's Jordyn seems on the ball and smashing out Emails and getting caught up and got back to me quick when I sent in questions. You should send an email and touch base with them to see where your order is at.
     
  13. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    Maybe next time you'll be the one waiting years for your knife, we'll see if your opinion changes then.
     
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  14. dogboye

    dogboye Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Yeah, I did exactly as I said: emailed them immediately after I finished my post above. Got an auto-reply that their inbox was overflowing, but they were working them down and would get back to me. We'll see how long that takes. Hopefully not another year. :eek:
     
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  15. Quiet

    Quiet "That guy" Gold Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    The issue here is that ESEE/Rowan is in business to make knives and deliver them to people, which is what they're good at. S?K are a couple of dirtball scumbags whose primary goal is to bilk people out of their money so they can live off of it. Kick out a few very basic knives every time the uproar gets to deafening volumes, and then depend on the new fans they always seem to accumulate somehow* and their upfront payments in full in order to buy groceries and pay all their personal bills.

    Guy should be back in jail, candidly speaking.


    * Morons who don't know how to use Google, I'm forced to conclude at this point.
     
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  16. OathofStone

    OathofStone

    7
    Feb 1, 2021
    It's possible. I just pulled the trigger on another order. Maybe I'll have a different opinion in 3 months.

    I think it took them a week or two to get back to me about my most recent email.

    My order showed up in 6 weeks from when it was ordered. I really hope yours gets some movement and you hear back soon!
     
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  17. Bmurray

    Bmurray Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 9, 2012
    I believe they’re in Idaho. Someone should file a complaint with the attorney general’s office. They don’t take this shit lightly. Maybe that’ll wake their crooked ass up.
     
  18. dogboye

    dogboye Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    It only took a couple of days for them to get back to me. My knife is built and just waiting on Guy to sharpen it.
     
  19. braillediver

    braillediver Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 6, 2007
    :D Like I've never heard that before...........
     
  20. dogboye

    dogboye Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    SO! I just got the email today. My pre-order that I've been waiting for 58.5 months is being shipped out. Wow!
    I will update when I have more to update with.
     

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