The "Ask Nathan a question" thread

Discussion in 'Carothers Performance Knives' started by JustinFournier, Aug 30, 2016.

  1. jlauffer

    jlauffer Dissident Aggressor Platinum Member

    Apr 11, 2016
    Fixed:D
     
  2. MiFi71

    MiFi71 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Sep 12, 2020
    Masterpiece by a master craftsman! Both are in short supply these days- thank you Nathan! You don't have to own a Van Gough to truly enjoy and appreciate one.
     
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  3. duramax

    duramax KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 29, 2012
    Couldn’t you Hard face the cutting edges with a welder ? I know a lot of guys that weld a hard face in a grid pattern on cutting area. They do it to extend the the life of the cutting teeth.
    Just a thought but what do I know lol I still use a shovel :) I call them for times I need a machine.
     
  4. Grenock

    Grenock Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 7, 2016
    Hey Bill! Yeah, things like that could be done, and would be on a larger machine that spends more time in adverse conditions. This little rig is only about 4800 pounds, it is the smallest full cab machine that you can get A/C in. The buckets and teeth are so small and inexpensive relative to what would be on a 30 ton excavator, that it just isn’t a concern. That bucket in the picture is a 24 incher. It will take a long time to wear the bucket out to the point it needs to be rebuilt or replaced. The teeth are due for a change, and they only cost about $100 for the set, I have two sets on hand. That much rock is kind of on the extreme end of things as far as what is normally asked of it. Usually I am making stuff like this......
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    This is what the teeth look like when new vs the old ones. You can see there is quite a bit missing!

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  5. TommyGun56

    TommyGun56 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 29, 2014
    Definitely this, and Uncle Matty is definitely

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    :p
     
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  6. vkp78

    vkp78 Gold Member Gold Member

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    May 6, 2014
    ^ My favorite actor! Still can't get over Training Day.
     
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  7. The Amazing Virginian

    The Amazing Virginian Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    Just saw that the OP was on the old INTEGRAL dagger. My bad. Yeah, I could see how that would be a lot more expensive than $600. LOL.
     
  8. jlauffer

    jlauffer Dissident Aggressor Platinum Member

    Apr 11, 2016
    Hey Nathan, am I correct that the short screw should have been red loctited into the barrel? Think that's what I remember from the UF/DEF. When I switched the scales on my DEK1, the short screw is the one that came out of the rear set. I thought maybe the red was applied to the wrong screw, but I was able to easily remove the long screw and it seems it only had the blue.

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  9. SwarthyGnome

    SwarthyGnome Gold Member Gold Member

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    Nov 1, 2018
    I was hoping that with all of Nathan's experience and skill, and new equipment to date, this would be like slap chop and its done, or set it and forget it type deal.

    I was wrong.
     
  10. fonedork

    fonedork Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 7, 2011
    Ever thought about doing rubber liners on a handle?
     
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  11. Ta2ude

    Ta2ude

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    Apr 7, 2012
    Nathan, that Integral Dagger is just beautiful in every way. As a machinist and tool and die maker with over 20 yeas experience I have nothing but full admiration and respect for the time, labor and passion involved in producing such a stunning piece of work. Amazing !!
     
  12. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    Yes, the short screw gets the red loctite. Sometimes it comes loose first anyways because it has less thread engagement. Particularly if you're turning from that side because the barrel can be pretty snug. If you look up into the barrel you should see some loctite still in there and it will be red on that side.
     
  13. jlauffer

    jlauffer Dissident Aggressor Platinum Member

    Apr 11, 2016
    Thanks! Didn't see any residue on the screw or in the barrel, so maybe it got missed on this one. No biggie...I used the rear hardware that came with the ECAM scales to put it back together. I don't have red, but I do have blue, so used that for now to put the short screw back into the barrel.
     
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  14. The Amazing Virginian

    The Amazing Virginian Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    QUESTION: I know your Delta 3V is awesome especially for field use knives with its high toughness, but do you think at some point you might go back and use Elmax again for some future EDC knife (or a stiff horn! :D), or maybe even something more stainless like CTS-XHP or M390?
     
  15. patrickguignot

    patrickguignot

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    Sep 10, 2015
    I don't think CTS-XHP is more stainless than Elmax.
     
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  16. The Amazing Virginian

    The Amazing Virginian Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 24, 2010
    These guys think it is.

    But who knows what they know?

    This may be the same guys.

    The Nerds however agree with you.

    Regardless, it seems they all beat 3V, and I guess what I am really asking about is if we can expect to see a more stainless steel in fuiture knives (altough AEB may (?) already qualify).

    Could throw Vanax and S110 into that mix.
     
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  17. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    Elmax is not as stainless as you might think. It has a ton of chrome, but it has a bunch of carbon too so that chrome is not all free chrome. It will rust.

    Elmax is a good steel. It combines pretty good edge stability and toughness (for a highly complex high carbide steel) with good wear resistance and corrosion resistance. All the things that S30V tried to be and failed, Elmax did it.

    But along comes S35VN. <--- that's a good steel. It's under rated because there are folks who don't do the best HT and also the association with S30V might not help it.

    I'm not sure what high carbide stainless I would choose today. Elmax would still be near the top of the list.

    I'm pretty excited to see what NSM and Larrin are working on. There is a new stainless steel in the works.
     
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  18. sickpuppy1

    sickpuppy1 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Sep 27, 2018
    Kinda like Benchmade and 154cm. That particular lack of decent HT has kinda soured me on the steel. Love my mini grip for edc at work but it’s so soft it loses the edge after one or two boxes of parts to open.
    I see another folder I like, but see the 154 and pull back every time. So I resign myself to the fact I’ll sharpen it till it disappears.
     
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  19. fatfrog

    fatfrog Basic Member Basic Member

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    Jul 26, 2019
    I don't have any way to objectively measure it but, subjectively, the S35VN in my CRK Large Inkosi feels.....soft. It's hard to describe but it doesn't really hold* an edge as well as I'd like for a knife in its price bracket.

    Edit *typo
     
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  20. Nathan the Machinist

    Nathan the Machinist KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 13, 2007
    this is a good example of what I'm talking about when I say that it doesn't always get the best heat treat. As much as I like CRK, their heat treat is pretty soft. Nowhere near optimized for a folding knife, in my opinion.
     
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