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  1. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Ha yes, my friend sent it to me earlier today.
     
  2. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Just found out the local liquor store recently started carrying it. Going to grab a bottle sometime soon.
     
  3. ShannonSteelLabs

    ShannonSteelLabs KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 9, 2015
    Angels envy cask strength.?!?! Woah thats a hell of a score!
    I've always been interested in that. But have never seen it in the wild. Lol.
     
  4. ShannonSteelLabs

    ShannonSteelLabs KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 9, 2015
    My most recent purchase was some
    Balcones Texas Rye.
    100 proof.

    It is absolutely spectacular.
    Huge chocolate notes. Some eucalyptus notes and typical rye spice notes. But for me its tons of chocolate, followed buy the eucalyptus.
    Best part was it was 40 bucks. This may be my new favorite rye. Beats out whistle pig farmstead by just a bit.

    In my search for it I found the balcones single malt, Rye cask finish. Which i am now in desperate need of. I love rum barrel finishes. So I'm fairly positive I will love it.

    As for cocktails. It makes excellent Manhattan and old fashioneds. My wife even enjoys it!
    (My diabolical plans to get her to like whiskey have been working)
     
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  5. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
    I've got a couple bottles stashed away from the first release (2012?). One is signed by Lincoln Henderson (actually, they might both be...I don't remember)
     
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  6. l1ranger

    l1ranger Gold Member Gold Member

    915
    Jan 27, 2017
    Balcones is on the list, but I"ve never seen any in the wild.

    I stopped in the local store saturday b/c I was in the area and why not.
    grabbed a bottle of Elijah Craig Rye and Bulleit 10 year. both have been on my list to try, but first time I've found them.
    passed on some michters rye, which seems to be more available now, but I'm pretty sure I have one open and a backup already in stock
     
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  7. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    Are you saying that you found a LLS near you that carries Finlaggan? If so and it's priced at $20, you should definitely buy it based on the tasting comparison that I just did today.

    I just happened to be in the area again and and bought a bottle of Finlaggan at TJ's for $20.

    They wanted $60 for the TJ branded 19 yr Highland which is more that I wanted to spend on it because I can get some excellent aged scotches of well known origin for just as much. So, it's a hard pass for me.

    I opened and compared the Finlaggan w/6 other Islays:

    1) Lagavulin 16
    2) Bowmore 15
    3) Caol Ila 12
    4) Ardbeg 10
    5) Bruichladdich Port Charlotte 10
    6) Laphroig 10

    It is closest in color to the Lagavulin and Bowmore but it is closest in both aroma and taste to Lagavulin.

    There's a very strong aroma of smoke w/the scent of peat, oak and spice. It is easy to drink neat w/o adding any water at 80 proof (only 6 less than Lagavulin) and offers a long lasting finish that tastes of slightly sweet caramel w/some spicy overtones.

    None of the other Islays was in any way similar in aroma and taste to the Finlaggan which was IMO just as delicious as Lagavulin 16 (for about 75-80% less in price).

    If you want to play games w/your friends, you could refill an empty bottle of Lagavulin 16 w/Finlaggan and I doubt they'd recognize any differences, which are very subtle even when they are compared side by side (which I did).

    I still prefer to buy the "real thing" but, in a pinch, I don't think you can go wrong w/a bottle of Finlaggan instead.

    Note: Photos to follow when I have more time and energy to post them.
     
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  8. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Awesome, thanks for the review! Yes my local liquor store has it for $25 out the door, I'm grabbing one (or two) tomorrow.
     
  9. ShannonSteelLabs

    ShannonSteelLabs KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 9, 2015
    I'm typically not crazy about scotch . But that flavor profile sounds great.

    But to be fair I've only had a handful of different scotches. I had a blend a couple months ago that was Pretty great. (Peat monster/peat beast/ something like that)
     
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  10. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Evidently I'm buying 8 of the Finlaggan tomorrow
     
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  11. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    That would be Peat Monster by Compass Box. It's a really smooth and enticing smoky blend of Islay and Highland peated scotches.

    Another peat blend by Compass Box is Great King Street - Glasglow Blend which is also very smooth but w/a bit less smoke and some sweetness from a sherry cask finish.

    Both are great neat or w/just a little water added.
     
  12. ShannonSteelLabs

    ShannonSteelLabs KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 9, 2015
    I'll have to try that out again.
    And try the other one.

    I do know that compass box is supposed to make excellent blends.
     
  13. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    I should add that I have been reading a variety of reviews (after the fact) on Finlaggan Old Reserve which is what I bought and the color, aroma and taste characteristics are NOT always the same.

    So, my guess is that they CHANGE which distillery that they use from time to time. In a 2011 review in the Scotch Noob, the reviewer described the color as very pale in color and guesses that it's a young Ardbeg. Another earlier review also described the color as "sunlight" and guessed that it was a young Laphroig with a very short finish.

    Neither of these description applies to the Finlaggan that I just tasted which is just as dark in color and has a very long lingering finish like Lagavulin and is robust and full bodied in a way that only comes with age.

    So, after you taste it, if you really like this version of Finlaggan, I suggest that you buy up as much of it as you can but chances are that it may be entirely different when they open the next casks in line for bottling.

    Also I don't know if it makes a difference but just as what's in the bottle seems to change over time, so does the label.

    Look for the bottle that looks like the following w/the words "Old Reserve" in bracketed small red lettering near the middle and in the center of the label and the words "Small Batch" in even smaller gold lettering below the ABV at the lower right corner of the label.

    [​IMG]

    This is the one I bought and, since they are so cheap, I am thinking about buying another 6 of them to stock up. Thinking of doing the same w/Eagle 10 bourbon which are also becoming extremely hard to find. ;)

    OBTW, there are 5 other versions of Finlaggan currently marketed by the company, including: Eilen Mor 46% ABV (the same as Lagavulin), Cask Strength at 58% ABV and 3 other 46% ABVs finished in sherry, port and red wine casks.

    See: Finlaggan's Line of Vintage Malt Whisky
     
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  14. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Ok picked up 8 bottles for me and my friends, thanks again @sgt1372 for such a detailed review!
     
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  15. Mongo

    Mongo

    Nov 5, 2001
    Oh Boy....
    I'm gonna have to disagree mightily with you here. I was GIVEN a bottle of Finnelagan by a Scottish neighbor of mine (who, if there was drinking in the Olympics... he's at least on the medal stand). I have Four of the six you posted above, and all are heads and shoulders above the Finn any and every day. I managed to choke it down because I'm a cheap-a$$, I would not buy it again. Lag 16 is fantastic... and I could definitely tell the difference between those two.
     
  16. ShannonSteelLabs

    ShannonSteelLabs KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 9, 2015
    If anyone sees
    Traverse City straight rye Barrel proof.
    Let me know.
    I've been looking for it but haven't had any luck.
     
  17. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    I'm really proud of myself today! :thumbsup:

    Showed amazing restraint by NOT buying a can of Stillhouse for $16 (50%/$16 off) and a bottle of Glenmorangie 10 Original for $30 (33%/$15 off) at my local Raley's.

    I like Stillhouse but am currently trying to empty the can I have because I want to make room for and move on to others and, while the Glenmorangie was offered at a good price, there are other varieites that I am actually more interested in buying.

    So, just came home w/a dozen eggs and 2 large bulbs of garlic for $2.98 instead.

    LOL! ;)

    Update:

    Looks like I spoke too soon.

    BevMo emailed me a 1 day only $10 off coupon and I just remembered that I saw some Pinhook Bourbon War - Vertical Series 4 on the shelf at my local BevMo. So, I decided to head over there to buy it.

    Looks like they "found" some new "old stock" because there were 12 of them on the shelf and they weren't even logged into inventory yet.

    I only bought 1 for $50 to go w/the Bourbon War - Vertical Series 5 that I bought previously. Am just going to "collect" these bottles for awhile and open them all when they get to Vertical Series 10 (the Series ends at 12).

    Apparently, unlike scotch, bourbon does not hold up well in-cask too long; 10-12 yrs is the longest most "experts" recommend before the bourbon starts to get too "oaked."

    I also picked up a bottle of Willet Distillery's Rowan's Creek (for another $50) to pair w/the Noah's Mill that I already have. Will open/taste it later.

    Also picked up some Agnostura bitters (for $10) to use in making an "Old Fashioned" with some bourbon's that I just want to get rid of; not because they're not "good" but mainly to make room for others.

    So, I'm sipping on an Old Fashioned that I made w/some Old Tub. Not sure if it's "good" or not. I added the orange twist but no marashino cherries available here.

    However, I did try it w/some brandied cherries that I made before but they obviously don't have the sweetness that the marashinos would provide. So, definitely NOT the same.

    Will have to order some Old Fashioneds at some restaurants that serve drinks w/meals outdoors so that I can make a proper comparison w/one made "professionally."
     
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  18. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    Fair enough but, as mentioned, they seem to change what they put in the bottle and we may not be talking about the same thing.

    After I eliminated the "others" as NOT being anything like what was in my bottle of Finlaggan, I took a long time comparing the taste of it w/Lagavulin 16 and I really had to focus on what I thought the major differences were.

    Granted, I'm not a "professional" tester but I can discern obviously differences between similar spirits (scotch and bourbon) and I know w/o a doubt if something is really BAD (or at least not to my taste), like the bottle of Glen Scotia that I was given as a gift and that I literally poured the entire bottle down the drain, even though it probably cost about $100. I've done this with expensive but IMO "bad" wine too.

    I did not consider the Finlaggan any near as bad as the Glen Scotia that I threw away. So, it'll be interesting to see what the @unwisefool thinks after he buys/tastes some too.
     
  19. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    Well, if you bought THAT may bottles, I really hope that you and your friends like it or you'll never believe anything that I say again. ;)

    There's also a "dissenting" opinion about Finlaggan (see above) which I think may be due to the tasting of different versions of the dram. So, I'll be very interested to hear what you think of the bottle that I opened/tasted.
     
  20. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Going to try it tomorrow, got home too late tonight. It's only $25, so if it's not great I'll just use it to make some cocktails. I did give my friends your email address just in case they would like to vent their disappointment if it's no good :p
     

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