Titanium san mai ring dao

Discussion in 'Sword Discussion' started by Mecha, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Hello sword people! Got the latest one ready to show!

    It's a large two-handed ring dao, with a titanium hilt and a blade made of forge-welded titanium alloy san mai. I'm very pleased with the dynamic balance of this sword. It floats to exactly where you need it, when you need it there.

    More pics and info in the post in my subforum, here:

    https://bladeforums.com/threads/forged-titanium-san-mai-ring-dao.1777064/#post-20353868



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    VIDEO!




    Thanks for looking! :)
     
  2. LEGION 12

    LEGION 12 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 8, 2009
    Awesome !
     
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  3. Richard338

    Richard338 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 3, 2005
    Excellent, congrats! I like the "hamon line" you get with your san mai, and as always, your musical selection.
     
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  4. Charlie_K

    Charlie_K

    Jul 16, 2012
    I still don't understand how titanium can give desirable results when it comes to swordsmithing.
     
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  5. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Most titanium alloys inherently have great attributes for a sword, the problem was figuring out how to retain those attributes while getting it "hard" enough to hold a good and sharp, durable edge. I put that word in quotes because it isn't really hardness, so much as the edge having the quality of not giving way to the medium being cut.
     
  6. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Thanks guys! :D
     
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  7. JParanee

    JParanee Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    Great stuff Sam

    very interesting stuff going on there
     
  8. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Thanks JP, I wish you could see it in person, as the photos don't really show off the facets and slight curves very well. For example, the handle is about 1/4" taller or more at the ring and the guard, than in the middle. When the sheath is finished, I either have to make a light box or send it to Coop to get a better image.
     
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  9. JParanee

    JParanee Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    If they have Blade are you coming this year ?
     
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  10. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Nor sure. I'll likely make it to the Blade Show West in California because it's easily driveable, but getting all the way to Atlanta can be a pain. :D If I wasn't such a scatterbrained spaz I'd just have one to send to you to see and use to cut. Perhaps soon it'll happen.
     
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  11. JParanee

    JParanee Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    Come e to Atlanta my friend I like seeing you
     
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  12. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Well then, guess I'm coming to Atlanta. :eek::D
     
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  13. Bigfattyt

    Bigfattyt

    Jun 23, 2007
    Science.


    There are some pretty crazy cutting videos with Mecha's titanium swords.

    Including trees.
     
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  14. Crag the Brewer

    Crag the Brewer Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 18, 2018
    If they are easily found, I'd like to see some? I tried searching and all I can see are stills/music videos of Knife or Death....Cool blade but I'd like to see it Moving too.
     
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  15. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Most of the cutting videos are older proof videos showing edge and blade durability.

    Here was the most recent one, just a slim straight sword made of Ti Nb alloy:



    Since many of the more recent swords were custom-made for someone, including this ring dao, I don't really get to cut with them as they should be new when they arrive. Titanium gets visible scratches easily.

    This jian was a custom and so I only cut a few melons things with it. Not a very good video:



    Here is one of the oldest videos just showing some of the first heat-treated blades getting tested for basic durability:




    Dan Keffeler did some wicked cutting with his big san mai titanium katana he made recently. He made it from one of the other billets we made, forged and heat treated by me, with him doing everything else to make it a sword. It's the same alloys as this ring dao, though the dao has a much thicker core:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B_TqJMFDUqH/

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B_U6JLoDxVY/

    Here was a different layered ti blade he tested, like the one above he made the sword, of a billet forged and HT'd by me:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B7wIAAbnpNr/

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B7wrW8iHL1U/

    https://www.instagram.com/p/B7ydmfCHp-5/

    Dan obviously has mad skills and working with him is helping bring out the utmost potential of the ti swords.

    This dao probably can't one-shot a 5" diameter freezing cold tree just due to differences in blade geometry, but metallurgically it's probably even slightly better simply because it was one of the second round of san mai billets we made (hence the thicker core), whereas in his videos those were some of our first test subjects.

    Watching the Knife or Death episode (season 2, episode 12) is probably the best demonstration of one of these big ti blades in action vis-a-vis various steel blades.
     
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  16. Crag the Brewer

    Crag the Brewer Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 18, 2018
    Thanks for all the Links!!!
    I stumbled across your stuff last year, at first I wasn't sure if it was Real or not? Haha.... You probably get that reaction alot.
    I can't even imagine what they feel like?

    Now I have more research, I'd love a simple Beater some day..... Thank you.
     
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  17. Crag the Brewer

    Crag the Brewer Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 18, 2018

    @Mecha
    OMG! what was I seeing? Wow!
    Ok, they are Real!!!
    (i had responded earlier without seeing your IG links, I'm at work) and laughing/Smiling.
    Fudge
     
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  18. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    No problem! Yes it was pretty funny trying to prove they were real. Been accused of using steel blades in the videos or otherwise being a scam artist.

    The ti versions are so light and easy to use, they're quite fun, and the machete-type are very useful tools.
     
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  19. Mecha

    Mecha Titanium Bladesmith Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Dec 27, 2013
    Yep it's hard to beat Dan when it comes to making a blade that can cut like it's from an anime. He showed just how insane a ti sword can get and really raised the bar in that regard, and I was very pleased to see that the ti, when the right alloy(s) are worked and heat-treated the right way, can support his type of insane blade cutting geometry.
     
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  20. JParanee

    JParanee Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    Sam

    I don’t go on Facebook post the TI Dan videos please

    thank you sir
     

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