What do you think of this dyed wood?

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Cushing H., Jun 27, 2020.

  1. Cushing H.

    Cushing H. Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 3, 2019
    I sent some Cherry Burl to K&G for stabilizing .... and one block tested for dyeing so see how it penetrated. Looks like it did - but not homogeneously (expected I guess). The resulting texture is kind of cool - but I really am not sure if I like it. This dye was black .... but I am thinking it might be much more attractive with a dye like dark Royal Blue... What do you guys think??
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  2. Rhinoknives1

    Rhinoknives1 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 1, 2013
    No dyeing of Burl type woods comes out even And even the cleanest of woods won’t. I suggest you make a handle with your test piece & see how it looks. Also the Cherry, no color.
     
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  3. Cushing H.

    Cushing H. Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 3, 2019
    It is actually that uneveness I was looking for ( = texture). Mostly I was wondering about the color. This was black dye ... and to me it kind of looks "dirty" (though my wife says she likes it ... and she constantly reminds me she has a better sense of aesthetics than I do... :) ). I am thinking a dark blue would stand out, and not have that "dirty" look.

    Cherry burl does have a slight red tone to it ... and from what I read previously stabilization brings out that tone even more. From what I got back (though I have not sanded and polished a sample), it does look like that is what happened with the non-dyed stabilized pieces....
     
  4. Hengelo_77

    Hengelo_77 Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    I just plainly hate it.
    To me it just looks unnatural.
    Wood can be so beautiful, just let it be wood.
     
  5. Cushing H.

    Cushing H. Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 3, 2019
    lol .... so you do not like dyed wood of any kind? (serious question ... nothing snippy meant by it.....)
     
  6. Hengelo_77

    Hengelo_77 Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    It just looks unnatural and wrong to me.
    To me darkening a wood like maple feels like cheating a bit as well.
    As long as it is brown it can look tolerateable, but still feels like cheating.
    Changing the chemestry of the wood with aqua fortis is different to me.

    Blue, red or bright green dyed wood to me is like putting a Donald Duck sticker on the Mona Lisa, because Donald Duck looks so funny.
     
  7. Randydb

    Randydb Basic Member Basic Member

    909
    Sep 27, 2014
    That isn't stabilized yet is it? Remember that the appearance will change with stabilization and sanding and a finish on it. I get my students to haul chunks of wood out the bush that is spalted, rotting on the end and looking like crap and they can't understand why I would want them. Stabilized and finished a year or two later and they look like a million dollars. So this likely will turn out much nicer when it is finished properly.

    When I make knives with my students or for my family I often sand the blocks to 120 and spray a coat of poly on them so they get an idea of what it will look like. Otherwise most of them can't see what it will look like finished and aren't inspired. My bet is that black dyed piece you have will have a striking look in the end.

    Personally dyed wood catches my eye initially, but when I see a blue or red wooden handle it just doesn't do it for me. I like the natural colours in the long run. BUT...beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I know other people that love dyed looks.

    just my 2cents worth.
     
  8. Willie71

    Willie71 Warren J. Krywko. Part Time Knifemaker Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 23, 2013
    I personally love dyed woods.
     
  9. Cushing H.

    Cushing H. Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 3, 2019
    Thanks randy and willie. It IS stabilized. I’ve seen dyed buckeye burl ... and what is different here is that, though the dye penetrated, it looks like it did so as little discrete fingers (whereas the buckeye was more uniform. I guess I will just have to put it on a handle (or a mock-up of one) and see what the final product looks like
     
  10. FredyCro

    FredyCro

    236
    Jan 11, 2019
    I think this will look beautiful when finished. It has natural colors and marble structure. Post some pics when you have finished a handle. Or cut a pair of scales and go through the grits and give it a coat of oil to show us how it will look finished.
     
  11. kdnolin

    kdnolin Basic Member Basic Member

    215
    Jan 16, 2017
    I like using a dyed ferrule on Wa handles. Gotta have some contrast.
     
  12. Rhinoknives1

    Rhinoknives1 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 1, 2013
    No problems here with unevenness . Still you won’t know what it really looks like till you take to 400-600 grit and wax or however you want to finish it?
     
  13. Cushing H.

    Cushing H. Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 3, 2019
    Will do.
     
  14. 3fifty7

    3fifty7 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 24, 2016
    I really like it, but I really like weathered wood. I recently had some spalted pecan stabilized by K&G, if I would have thought it would have picked up those gray tones I would have dyed the majority of it.
     
  15. john april

    john april KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 27, 2006
    i think it will look fine.
     
  16. Cushing H.

    Cushing H. Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 3, 2019
    just for comparison, here is the un-dyed (stabilized) burl, taken to 800 grit.... (sorry, not that great a photo...)
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  17. Randydb

    Randydb Basic Member Basic Member

    909
    Sep 27, 2014
    That looks great. Wonderful depth and contrasts in it. I bet that black dyed piece will look pretty nice too.
     
  18. Hengelo_77

    Hengelo_77 Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    I think that is a beauriful piece of wood and I think it looks a lot better then the dyed piece
     
  19. A.McPherson

    A.McPherson KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jan 27, 2012
    I would agree with @Hengelo_77, the undyed looks better. But I don't like dyed wood either, so...
     
  20. weo

    weo KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 21, 2014
    Don't forget, Cush, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The only person who's opinion really matters should be the person who's knife it is.
     
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