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Which Para 3 for a saltwater environment?

Discussion in 'Spyderco' started by wave1911, Apr 28, 2019.

  1. wave1911

    wave1911 Gold Member Gold Member

    30
    Nov 13, 2013
    Im looking for a PARA 3 to carry but will also be using it on the boat. Wondering which options are the most corrosion resistant.

    Thanks
     
  2. ferider

    ferider Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    298
    Jun 20, 2018
    s110v. Be generous with oil on the Pivot.
     
  3. RHPICAYUNE

    RHPICAYUNE

    175
    Apr 16, 2017
    Spyderco just needs to put some black & yellow striped G-10 on the PM3 along with some LC200N steel to make a Caribbean Junior...
    Other than that & H1, it looks like S110V is the best, according to this Spyderco thread from 4-16-2017:

    https://forum.spyderco.com/viewtopic.php?t=74221

    Re: Corrosion Resistance Ranking of Stainless Steels
    Postby PayneTrain » Sun Apr 16, 2017 6:07 pm

    My subjective rankings from another post a little while ago:
    10: H1, LC200N (based on Surfingringo's report), glass. These things can't rust. Go ahead and try.
    9:
    8: S110V (really stainless, only managed to get rust spots by leaving joint compound on it to dry, and even then it wiped right off)
    7: S90V/CTS-20CP, CTS-XHP, CTS-204P/CPM 20CV/M390
    6: VG-10, S30V/S35VN, 440C, Elmax, CTS-B70P, GIN-1, 440A, 12C27, 154CM
    5: AUS-8, Cruwear, ZDP-189
    4: D2, PSF27, Sleipner
    3: M4, 1095, 5160
    2: Super Blue (rusts in humid weather if not protected)
    1: My car (results possibly skewed by New England's liberal use of super-salts on the roads [​IMG] )

    I may split the 7's and put the M390 variants above the S90V variants based on super scientific sweat testing, but I think it's largely splitting hairs. Other than that, these are still my opinions/absolute truths. [​IMG]
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  4. ric75

    ric75

    98
    Jun 2, 2017
    I would use the lightweight.
    Cheapest Para so far.
    Or a S30V. Easy to sharpen.
    Hopefully we get a Salt version this or next year.
     
  5. Cscotttsss

    Cscotttsss Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 3, 2015
    Why not get a Salt series and not ever have to worry?
     
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  6. archieblue

    archieblue Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 19, 2001
    S35VN has been the most corrosion resistant steel I’ve come across other than H1. (I’ve not used lc200n) I have snorkeled in the Caribbean for literally hundreds of hours with a Native lightweight in S35VN. Never took the knife apart until a year later with zero signs of rust inside. I just gave it a freshwater rinse after a trip and scraped any small rust spots off with a stick. No problems. So I would choose that knife over a Para 3. I would, however, try out a Para 3 Lightweight snorkeling. The BD1N is reported to be extremely corrosion resistant.
     
  7. insta9ves

    insta9ves

    Apr 3, 2007
    Para 3 lightweight salt
     
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  8. John_0917

    John_0917 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    My P3LW has actually shown pretty poor corrosion resistance.
     
  9. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    You may want to just get a model that's full corrosion resistant. Even if you go with s110v the hardware is not corrosion resistant.

    m390/20cv/204p are hard to find and expensive for no reason.

    H1 would be idea. But also is lc200n in the salt line or the Spydiechef but that's also hard to find currently iirc.

    Otherwise just use proper maintenance and oil and you'll be fine.
     
  10. Sal Glesser

    Sal Glesser Moderator Moderator

    Dec 27, 1998
    Hi Wave,

    As suggested, if you are going to be on a boat in a salt water environment, I would get a Salt.

    sal
     
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  11. steelcitysixteen

    steelcitysixteen Gold Member Gold Member

    296
    Dec 12, 2017

    How far out are we on a Para 3 Salt?
     
  12. John_0917

    John_0917 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    Doubtful, I think the closest we are gonna see will be S110V
     
  13. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    I doubt that'll be a thing. A para3 lightweight salt maybe. Less bits to replace with H1 or lc200n?
     
  14. uxo2

    uxo2 Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 3, 2013
    I'm in saltwater at least 3 times a week.

    Get something in H1 or LC200N.

    My 52100 PM2 stays in the car.

    The Atlantic Salt is in the surf with me all the time. Never rinsed. No rust.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
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  15. Cscotttsss

    Cscotttsss Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 3, 2015
    Please elaborate? They have only been out a few weeks..........
     
  16. John_0917

    John_0917 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    It has shown rust spotting every time I have gotten it wet and let it air dry, similar to what D2 does. On the grinds as well as the edge. I still like the steel, it sharpens and holds an edge well, but to call it “highly stainless” is definitely not accurate.
     
  17. Mo2

    Mo2

    Apr 8, 2016
    Does it stain or just clean right off
     
  18. John_0917

    John_0917 Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 15, 2014
    It stains, not terrible and will come off with a vigorous rub with isopropyl alcohol, not pitting but definitely brown staining.

    I’m not trying to criticize BD1N at all, I think it’s a very good steel and like it a lot, but I do want to correct (what I see as) bad info out there portraying BD1N as this side of LC200 as far as corrosion resistance, it’s just not true.
     
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