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Who is buying these old-timey knives that don't even lock?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Motega, Dec 5, 2019.

  1. JD Bear

    JD Bear Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 4, 2015
    True...and that definitely makes sense, but with the driving analogy you have to take into consideration that other people may not be safe drivers. So there's a gamble trusting other people on the road. I think that slip joints are good in controlled circumstances. If I'm out on the trails with my boys and we need to make a repair on a truck that requires a knife, I'm probably gonna use something with a lock. But that circumstance is so few and far between I wouldn't only carry a locking knife because it. I have a couple in my bag for that :thumbsup:
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  2. Danke42


    Feb 10, 2015
    I just half open all my locking blades anyway and use them like that to cut stuff.

    I know a bunch of you do it too.
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  3. James Y

    James Y

    Feb 18, 1999
    The number of years one has been a member here, in itself, doesn’t really mean much. I should know! :p

    The single most common and popular pocketknife the world over is the tiny Victorinox Classic. And that is a little ‘lobster pattern’ pen knife nearly identical to lobster pattern knives from the 1800s.

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  4. r8shell

    r8shell Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 16, 2010
    Buck should bring back the 700 series! :) I think they made a 704 solitaire, but I don't know the blade length compared to the 501.
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  5. JD Bear

    JD Bear Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 4, 2015
    I agree! I got one of those off the exchange not too long ago and I love it. They're little bricks :thumbsup:

    I have to admit that I'm a little biased toward Buck though. I love the way the company conducts itself....
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  6. cbrstar

    cbrstar Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 7, 2015
    There's just something about hearing that audible "click" I find strangely satisfying. :cool:

    But I did carry a Sak for over 20 years. So I do get it.

    But one thing I've noticed
    There is too much of a gap in prices on slip joints/Traditionals.
    With your "Taticool" modern locking knife. There's something for everyone in every price range that checks off all the boxes. Well made, nice action, interesting steel.

    But with modern slip joints...Well made = expensive, nice action = expensive, interesting steel = super expensive. :thumbsdown: On the other end there is a few like sak that are inexpensive and good but most I come across are the equivalent to gas station specials. You're getting charged a hefty premium for any quality.
    A good example that comes to mind is the Cold Steel Ranch Boss. It's more expensive then their "tacticool" knives which are made from the same steel but way more of it, and way more parts that need machining.
  7. tyyreaun

    tyyreaun Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 26, 2017
    Great thread! Completely agree that slipjoints have their place.

    But, at least we can all agree that one-handed opening and closing knives are objectively and universally superior to their two-handed counterparts, regardless of lock type, right?

    *runs away*
  8. kvaughn

    kvaughn Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 28, 2005
    Being a dyed in the wool, old dude traditionalist that started carrying slipjoints in the second grade (1962), I doubt I'll change. BUT
    I was recently gifted a Spyderco Sage in S30V / CF and really like the knife. I've started carrying it clipped right front with a Case 83 whittler in my watch pocket. I always laughed at people that carried two knives but I do see the utility of it. The Sage prints and carries small for its size.--KV
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  9. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I don't think I agree with the universally superior comment. It is just a matter of choice and my favorite folding knives are two-handed openers.
  10. Dr Heelhook

    Dr Heelhook Basic Member Basic Member

    Jul 24, 2007
    Yeah, who still hunts with a bolt action rifle and a double barrel shotgun?
  11. jackknife

    jackknife Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Oct 2, 2004
    Same folks that still use a revolver for CCW.
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  12. jackknife

    jackknife Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Oct 2, 2004
    I don't agree with that statement at all. For 67 of my 78 years on this rock, I've carried a slip joint with no blade lock. I still have all my fingers, and I've never been caught short for whatever cutting I had to do with a pocket knife. I've hunted, fished, camped, back packed up and down he Appalachian trail, hiked in most mountain ranges in the U.S. and the Bavarian Alps, been on eco trip in the Costa Rican rain forest, and somehow survived without a locking blade knife. If my slip joint pocket knife won't handle it, then I use a fixed blade.

    For the most part, the slip joints I've carried like the three bladed stockman, two blade jack, and SAK's with multiple blades/tools, give me a degree of versatility that the single blade one hand wonder can't begin to touch. I've yet to see any one hand wonder give the versatility of three different blade shapes, with three different edge profiles, in one 3 and 7/8th inch package.
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  13. herisson

    herisson Apple slicing rocking chair dweller Platinum Member

    Mar 11, 2013
    Need / want a lock ? No problem... Don't need a lock, no problem either...
    First one, my favorite EDC / steak oriented knife (it has a lock, sort of) :
    Second, my true EDC / do everything knife. No lock, but a bear trap spring. Cool ... :
    And eventually, this is always in a pocket, no lock, no spring, go figure. I use it all the time...
    But most of the time, I prefer this, no lock, no spring, too. Just perfect.
  14. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    Some think AR's are the only way to go any more. A few states don't allow them for hunting and I believe most have magazine restrictions. This is not something I pay that much attention to as I am simply not interested in using an AR for hunting with the possible exception of feral hogs. I am not overly fond of double barrel shotguns and prefer pumps. Must be that capacity thing. ;) My "deer rifle" is in fact a bolt action Remington M700 BDL. But I mostly use a big bore revolver now.

    I generally prefer a small revolver for carry. But I do have choices available to me.

    I think if a person is really hung up with knife opening speed, they should seriously consider a fixed blade.
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2019
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  15. Velitrius

    Velitrius Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 3, 2000
    I use a bolt action rifle for hunting, but I own semi autos.

    I use a over/under shotgun for grouse, but I have semi autos.

    I carry a wheelgun, but I got me some semi autos of those too.

    I carry modern locking folders, but I have slipjoints.

    I'm over 40, but I been around BFC for 20 years. So I guess that's where the modern folder preference comes from.
  16. cbrstar

    cbrstar Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 7, 2015
    I guess if you actually use the spey blade to spey animals? But I think most people actually never use the extra blades. What I've noticed when I come across antique traditional knives is quite often only one blade opens and the others are seized. So to me that means the past owner even 70 years ago only used the one blade and neglected the others. The extra blades were job specific for the working man so the modern multi tool is really the next evolution for modern trades.
  17. SkinnyDale

    SkinnyDale Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 3, 2006
    457B9E37-D158-4E6D-9AFC-88BC7A6C047C.jpeg Some European style..
  18. Motega

    Motega Gold Member Gold Member Basic Member

    Jun 20, 2006
    I don't think 24 hours constitutes abandoning a post. I have non-locking knives older than some of you youngsters (I'm well into my 4th decade) and have been perplexed by my great grandmothers hooker knife since I was 6. I'm a bit disappointed to have to tell you she wasn't a hooker, and I'll post a pic of that sleazy knife this weekend.
    I accomplished exactly what I set out to do- get a whole bunch of discussion going about this particular style of knife that I honestly don't see the value of and got some great responses- many well thought out, some great points, and best of all some that literally had me laughing out loud. It's all in good fun, I promise you!
    The Meme with the cat gets my tip of the hat for funniest along with the 12.5 million mistakes a year comment, but whatever some of you lack in knife taste you make up for in wit. The Hamlet post - geez, I mean blown away by that one ("..dreamt of in your philosophy...").
    Any post that gets this many responses without devolving into name calling, or meanness for the sake of it, and brings a few smiles (and knowledge!) doesn't qualify as trolling. It was an honest question- maybe phrased a little too keen for some of your tastes- but an honest question nonetheless and I'm proud to support such an amazing community with my generous membership (ok THAT was trolling).
    Scout's honor though, I really do respect and appreciate you guys and wish you all health and happiness throughout the New Year!
  19. L.H.S

    L.H.S Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 1, 2013
    Wow, what a way to come back in out of nowhere with the save! Good stuff!
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  20. rje58

    rje58 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 21, 2013
    I have quite a few slipjoint knives that I love, carry and use! And some that are just nice to have and look it, and show.

    I get it though, those who are frustrated by brand names whose quality control and sometimes, quality period, are quite frustrating. You want them to be successful, but why do so many RR knives have better fit and finish at a fraction of the price? I mean, come on, not seeking perfection, but I have paid $50-$100 for knives that were so shoddily put together that it was embarrassing - I wish they had been made in some far away land!

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