Why do knife snobs hate Cold Steel??

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by sharp lupo, Oct 11, 2010.

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  1. Planterz

    Planterz Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    Shh! Don't let Cotdt hear you say that!:eek:
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2010
  2. Planterz

    Planterz Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 26, 2004
    I suppose that's true. My comments about CS using "sub-par" steels like AUS8 is somewhat off-base. Cold Steel doesn't make claims of making the best-slicing knives, or the longest-lasting in rope-cutting-tests knives, they claim to make the "World's Strongest Knives" (I'll ignore the claim about "Sharpest Knives"). And "prove" it with videos of stabbing car doors and whatnot.

    What steel is "best" is subjective to the task at hand (among other things), and I'll concede that AUS8 is a far better steel for stabbing car doors than VG-10 or S30V. Personally though, I don't find myself stabbing car doors all that often, so I prefer a steel that holds an edge better when used performing "normal" and "every day" cutting tasks. For which AUS8 is IMO sub-par.



    I also must amend my original statement that CS's knives "never really did anything for me". I'll admit that I've always liked the look of the Ti-Lite titanium models (particularly the purple anodized one). But I never risked buying one because I was wary of getting a lemon. And to be fair, it's a Phil Boguszewski, not a CS one.
     
  3. Ankerson

    Ankerson Knife and Computer Geek Gold Member

    Nov 2, 2002

    It's all good, just different. :thumbup:
     
  4. GrinderMcgee

    GrinderMcgee

    Jun 23, 2008

    I can get on board with that statement. :thumbup::thumbup:
     
  5. Ankerson

    Ankerson Knife and Computer Geek Gold Member

    Nov 2, 2002
    Cool. :)

    I do believe that CS could stand for some refinements though.

    Steel, F&F etc could get better from the way I see it and I say that knowing that the prices would go up on the knives but the end products would be improved in the end.
     
  6. Subhilt1

    Subhilt1

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    Oct 17, 2010
    Even though i dont agree with Lynn Thompsons approach to selling knives, i think cold steel bring are bringing some great knives. As long as the knives are good quality and perform well, i dont see any other reason to buy cold steel.
     
  7. Subhilt1

    Subhilt1

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    Oct 17, 2010
    oops sorry for that mistake (*i think cold steel bring are bringing some*)
     
  8. styx

    styx

    720
    Apr 21, 2010
    I'm kinda late on this topic but here's my beef with 'em - price and warranty. Lynn is Lynn and that's it. All kinds of ppl out there and not all are nice, friendly or at least pleasant.

    But the thing is I got a knife as a gift and it busted first time I used it. Now I didn't pay for it so that was good, but then again I wouldn't pay that price when there are other companies that have more affordable stuff that is of the same or higher value, only not as tacticool but then again that's even undesired by some (like me).
    Any way I contacted the local distributor about sending the knife in and they blew me off in a min or 2 that i misused the knife. Mailed CS and they said the same thing. Now I don't get since when is cutting abuse (some kind of plastic, no stronger than a ziptie), but even if I leave that alone the fact that they didn't want to even see the knife is astounding. Some companies even offer and try help to finance the shipping if it's trough the roof because even if it's a lemon it can tell 'em sth.
    CS just gave the impression that they don't give a damn about it
     
  9. waynejitsu

    waynejitsu

    Oct 1, 2002
    "CS just gave the impression that they don't give a damn about it"

    That is not an "impression", that is a fact, that is what happened to you, actions speak a LOT louder than words.
    They can scream all day about knife "challenges" and "proof", etc, but this is REAL PROOF!!
    Not only PROOF of lack of warranty and customer service, Lack of actually caring about the Customer, but also PROOF of low quality.
    Any quality knife maker (well, in this case, knife contractor) would want a defective knife back to investigate the problem, to see why it broke and to make corrections to make sure it does not happen again.
    What CS is telling you (not words, but actions), that this is "normal" for this knife, it is not covered by warranty and they do not care enough to want to see the knife too see what was broken, why it broke and make changes to prevent it from happening again (maybe a recall?)
    If CS does not care about their knives, I feel like, why should I buy one.
    Just my .02
     
  10. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
    Still... I'd rather buy a CS right now than a Microtech.
     
  11. sharp lupo

    sharp lupo

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    Oct 11, 2010




    How come?
     
  12. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
    Wish I still had the for sale video... To make a long story short, I traded 2 OTFs for a NIB (only fired once kinda thing) bed blast plain Halo V. After 10 firings, the spring kinked and it failed to retract. Sent it back and it was cool for 2 months serving as a desk toy. Then it happened again. The guy at MT said he put a new spring in and the same problem happened in 2-3 firings. He ordered another spring that was slightly smaller. A day before it shipped, I got an email from the guy who I sent it to informing me of the corrective action. That same day, I was at a knife show and got to meet Tony Marfione Jr. He told the same thing that the email said, something about how the early springs (my knife was in the low #200's) were too long and would tend to go sideways. When the knife arrived, it fired a handful of times and the same old shit again. I ended up selling it for $300 as a parts kit.
     
  13. sharp lupo

    sharp lupo

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    Oct 11, 2010


    Damn sorry to hear that. I wouldnt trust a OTF for anything anyways,
    but I hd one for one day.
    I was never into autos but I just ordered a Benchmade AFO II and
    Auto stryker yesterday and it took me some years to build up to it.

    3 years ago I bought a MT scarab from a gun show. I took it home and it
    immediately started to misfire(would not lock into position)
    I took it back the next day and got my money back. Thats the only experence I have with MT and would NeVeR recommend them to any LEO or
    active military.
     
  14. waynejitsu

    waynejitsu

    Oct 1, 2002
    I never had any luck with any OTF from any company.
    Even the BM Infidel, I was sooo disappointed in it, I immediately sold it. Just the design is weak, I do not trust them, but the "cool factor" is there, but not for use as a EDC or tactical knife, more of a novelty, IMO
     
  15. sharp lupo

    sharp lupo

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    Oct 11, 2010




    exactly
     
  16. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
    Me too. I had a NIB Infidel for a week. It failed to retract when held tip down 1 of 10 times. No enough thwack. The Scarab was well done.
     
  17. cziv

    cziv

    Nov 24, 2005
    You guys must have had bad luck.

    I saw a spy movie - the spy gets behind his "mark" on a city bus and puts his OTF against the metal backed seat in front of him. He pushed the trigger and that sucker fired right through the metal back (probably an aluminum alloy), through the padding and killed the bad guy instantly with a stab in the back from the spy's OTF! :eek:

    He had a solid one but I wasn't a knife addict then so I didn't see the model. It sure cut through the metal as good as Cold Steel knives do! :)
     
  18. Charlie Mike

    Charlie Mike Sober since 1-7-14 (still a Paranoid Nutjob) Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 1, 2000
    The only MT I own is this guy. My wife owns the blued version, same first production run.

    [youtube]v-RxJeG1ox4[/youtube]

    [youtube]5T8ooepV6b0[/youtube]
     
  19. ronsec

    ronsec

    Sep 13, 2002
    That was the little known CS OTF prototype! :D
     
  20. chriskarma

    chriskarma

    7
    Apr 17, 2008
    A grand vaquero, its been a terrific knife.
    Its my edc
     
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