Why does Victorinox play hard to get with the perfect SAK?

Discussion in 'Multi-tools & Multi-purpose Knives' started by DoctorAutomatic, May 18, 2018.

  1. DMG

    DMG Gold Member Gold Member

    510
    Dec 30, 2005
  2. tiguy7

    tiguy7 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 25, 2008
    The larger sizes (91mm) are assembled with 1/8” diameter, internally threaded (#2X56TPI) barrels by customizers who also enlarge the blade pivot holes to accommodate such barrels. They fabricate the handle slabs and scavenge parts from usually new knives.
     
  3. JB in SC

    JB in SC Basic Member Basic Member

    May 19, 2001
    I'd like a Recruit modified to a single layer with only the two blades, no keyring. Wonder how difficult that would be to accomplish?
     
  4. Pomsbz

    Pomsbz

    Jul 31, 2015
    Not that hard at all, I've done a couple of these with Spartans.

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  5. JB in SC

    JB in SC Basic Member Basic Member

    May 19, 2001
    Nicely done. Removing the rivets and replacing them seems to be the most difficult part of the process, or am I missing something? Taking into consideration only removing a few tools without getting too fancy?
     
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  6. Sawl Goodman

    Sawl Goodman Gold Member Gold Member

    137
    Jun 4, 2018
    A Pocket Pal fits the brief perfectly. The Excelsior is still available new and is the same as the Pocket Pal, but with a keyring that can filed off.
     
  7. JB in SC

    JB in SC Basic Member Basic Member

    May 19, 2001
    It does, but it doesn’t feel quite as sturdy as the Recruit.
     
  8. tinfoil hat timmy

    tinfoil hat timmy Gold Member Gold Member

    Aug 21, 2014
    I'd love love LOOOOVE a build your own SAK.
     
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  9. Sawl Goodman

    Sawl Goodman Gold Member Gold Member

    137
    Jun 4, 2018
    If you don’t know already, there are alox versions. Check out 84mm 1 layer in the wiki. They’ll be very slim in the hand.
     
  10. Pomsbz

    Pomsbz

    Jul 31, 2015
    Drill out the pins just enough to free up and remove the opener layer then you should have plenty pin left to rivet down and close it back up again. It really is about the easiest SAK mod you can do. The outside pins are 2.5mm but the inside is 2.2mm so keep that in mind when choosing drill bits. The pins rivet down inside the brass collar, don't ruin or lose those or it's time to buy a new sak to work from.
     
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  11. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I actually did a couple years ago but Vic would not allow changing the various tools. It was a Spartan and it is my only Spartan. It was free too. :D

    The cork screw is generally why I don't favor the Spartan.
     
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  12. sonofwilfred

    sonofwilfred Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 23, 2015
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  13. Smaug

    Smaug Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 30, 2003
    I think they could just create a Custom Shop, in which the user selects his own configuration and they just build it. The rarer production models could then be discontinued in favor of the more popular ones. Configurations that are very frequently requested could be made into production models.

    I feel like Victorinox is focusing so much on diversifying their assets (luggage, fragrances, watches) that they are letting their core business languish. Getting a bit too slow to react to the market demands.
     
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  14. Pomsbz

    Pomsbz

    Jul 31, 2015
    What market demands? A small minority on blade forums where even the majority here are really happy with their SAK's? Or is it the general market whom they're selling 20+ million knives a year to? If that's 'languishing' then I'd hate to see the term used for all the modern knife manufacturers, those really in touch with the most modern trends, whose sales combined can't begin to approach that number.
     
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  15. SteeleJ1976

    SteeleJ1976

    119
    Jan 24, 2020
    The perfect SAK is the one you have in your pocket, lol. Seriously though for me the Tinker is perfect but it would be nice to customize them more easily.
     
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  16. jmh33

    jmh33 Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 16, 2003
    Exactly!!!! :D:thumbsup::D
    John
     
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  17. Smaug

    Smaug Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 30, 2003
    There's no doubt that they sell a lot of knives.

    They slowly roll out new models based on what they think will sell. They could be rolling out models based on what they KNOW will sell.

    What they're missing is opportunity for growth, and not just slow growth.
     
  18. Pomsbz

    Pomsbz

    Jul 31, 2015
    They're Swiss, a family owned business. They take the long view and change very very slowly if at all. Helped by not having any stock holders to impress. Who says they're looking for growth of their knife department? Have they ever followed trends in the knife business? They've established trends rather than follow them.
     
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  19. Smaug

    Smaug Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 30, 2003
    Good points, Pomsbz. They're doing well for themselves.
     
  20. Pomsbz

    Pomsbz

    Jul 31, 2015
    Yup. I have a sister in law who lives in Zurich. The Swiss don't really do 'new' much and change happens very very very slowly. Or at least that's how it appears. Oh and they make incredible sausages. :)
     
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