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Wrap&weld tomahawk WIP pics

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Kentucky, Jan 19, 2019.

  1. Kentucky

    Kentucky KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Dec 13, 2008
    The start of a wrap & weld tomahawk thread. ill add more later today too
    This is a piece ofg mild steel 1/4" thick by 1 1/2" wide and 9 1/2" long. I take a heat then round the inside of the strap that will be the eye. This isn't a must have but it keep the eye from fish-lipping when you bend it..
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    Then I take over to a hardy
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    bend it around til it touces itself
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    Heres the drift we use. We made it after wearing out so many of the cast ones..
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    Here you form the eye close as possible before welding. That just means less work after and better contact for the weld
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    heres the eye blank and the cutting bit forged out from a piece of W1 tool steel. Scarfed very thin
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    All put together ready to go in the fire
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  2. Kentucky

    Kentucky KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Dec 13, 2008
    Deep in a fire for welding heat.. Heat well past the point to be welded..Thats where most mess up the eye. It needs a welding heat well past that..
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    I cut off the flashing to show the welds..this is what they are suppose to look like. No seams, no lines just solid metal..You will see seems and lines in the scale etc but when you grind it clean this is what its suppose to look like
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    A side note in these pic you will see Hoop tongs. if you decide to make more of these style hawks do yourself a favor and make some hoop tongs
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    Rough forged to shape
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  3. Salem Straub

    Salem Straub KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 20, 2008
    Very cool! Thanks for posting.
     
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  4. allenkey

    allenkey Gold Member Basic Member Gold Member

    78
    May 19, 2018
    That's really cool! Thank you for posting!
     
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  5. Tom Lewis

    Tom Lewis

    Feb 24, 2000
    Very nice. Thanks!
     
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  6. Willie71

    Willie71 Warren J. Krywko. Part Time Knifemaker Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 23, 2013
    Kentucky, I’ve got a question. I’ve got a few of these planned. Is there an advantage to welding the steel to itself in front of the handle compared to welding the bit right up to the handle?
     
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  7. Kentucky

    Kentucky KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Dec 13, 2008
    That’s a good question and I was actually going to mention that. I’ve done it a bunch both ways. I’d actually say it’s easier to weld up with a full length bit. Since the HC steel welds at a lower heat and you have a flat even surface to weld. With the bit in the front like pictured it takes multiple welding passes to get it all together correctly before you can start forging because of all the uneven surfaces.
    I remember I made a bunch of these once with a full length 1075 bit(from Aldo) and it worked great and easier to weld up.
     
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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Dec 13, 2008
    @Willie71
    Here’s one I did that way that was forged from a Older good quality rasp.. The file was folded back into itself for a full length bit
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  9. AVigil

    AVigil Adam Vigil knifemaker working the grind Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Platinum Member

    Feb 17, 2009
    That's great. Thank you
     
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  10. Maelstrom78

    Maelstrom78

    Sep 21, 2013
    Very cool. Love the rasp!
     
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  11. Willie71

    Willie71 Warren J. Krywko. Part Time Knifemaker Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 23, 2013

    Thank you. That helps a lot!
     
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  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Dec 13, 2008
    Here’s the head brushed. Edge ground and ready to start the normalization cycles. It’s W1 so I’ll aust. It @ about 1460 and quench in parks 50. Then temper
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  13. Volkert Forge

    Volkert Forge KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    70
    Nov 25, 2018
    WOW!!! Thanks for sharing
     
  14. DanF

    DanF KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    477
    Apr 17, 2017
    Very nice, thank you for posting!
     
  15. LCoop

    LCoop

    339
    May 5, 2007
    Very Cool!
     
  16. Adam Buttry

    Adam Buttry

    569
    Nov 10, 2010
    Good stuff! We don't have nearly enough of these types of threads any more. Thanks for taking the time to share!
     
  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Dec 13, 2008
    I’ll post the last few pics and some final thoughts later today.
    I’m going to do a hammer poll, punched eye hawk wip thread too
     
  18. rodriguez7

    rodriguez7 KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Feb 1, 2009
    Thanks for posting that. I have a long ways to go before I’m on this level!
     
  19. Metalhead0483

    Metalhead0483

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    Jan 17, 2008
    Great WIP! Thanks for posting :)

    When you say you round the bar where the eye will be, are you just dishing that section out? That's what it looks like, but it's kind of hard to show that in pictures.
     
  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Basic Member

    Dec 13, 2008
    Yes it’s dishing it. I’ll take a better pic of that tonight.
     
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